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braffy Sep 3, 2012 9:30 pm

Recommendation for no-forex-fee card?
 
Hi all,

I have the opportunity to charge approximately $50-$70K annually in business expenses from a single overseas supplier and would appreciate your suggestions for a few cards that would be most rewarding to use in this situation.

Conditions are:
1. No foreign exchange fee (Purchases are from outside USA)
2. Visa or M/C only (supplier does not accept Amex or Discover)
3. Any annual fee is fine as long as it is outweighed by benefits
4. If sign-up bonuses and/or spend requirements make it worthwhile, I would consider applying for multiple cards
5. My family and I fly regularly for non-work purposes so I have good use for travel rewards/points. We normally fly UA, AS, DL.

Thoughts? Please advise if I should include any additional information.

eethan Sep 3, 2012 10:45 pm

I assume you'll be charging a fair amount in hotel expenses. Marriott Premier has no forex fees and it nets you 5 Marriott pts / $ for Marriott stays. A good all-around card is the Sapphire preferred, because it has 2 pts / $ on any travel expenses.

Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.

crabbing Sep 4, 2012 3:59 am

penfed visa has no forex transaction fee, has no annual fee, and gives the equivalent of 1% cash back (up to a limit which i have never hit, and has higher returns for certain categories that don't appear to apply to you).

braffy Sep 4, 2012 6:09 am


Originally Posted by eethan (Post 19248005)
I assume you'll be charging a fair amount in hotel expenses. Marriott Premier has no forex fees and it nets you 5 Marriott pts / $ for Marriott stays. A good all-around card is the Sapphire preferred, because it has 2 pts / $ on any travel expenses.

Both cards have annual fees. The Marriott also gives you a free night / year. The Sapphire allows you to convert points to many different airlines or hotel programs.

Thanks for your suggestion eethan. This card will not be used much for travel expenses... I have now clarified that in my original post.

aresay Sep 4, 2012 6:27 am

The Chase Ink cards are probably a good choice. Depending on the type of business expenses you could earn up to 5x Ultimate Rewards points with no fx in addition to the 50k sign up bonuses

CathyJune Sep 4, 2012 7:53 am


Originally Posted by crabbing (Post 19248894)
penfed visa has no forex transaction fee, has no annual fee, and gives the equivalent of 1% cash back (up to a limit which i have never hit, and has higher returns for certain categories that don't appear to apply to you).

I believe the Penfed Visa (old version) has 0.25% cash back except for fuel which is 5% cash back. (I mainly use this card for my fuel purchases).

There is a new version that is on the points system instead of cash back but I haven't changed over since I mainly buy gas (5% cash back the next month) with this card.

mia Sep 4, 2012 7:59 am


Originally Posted by braffy (Post 19247749)
...from a single overseas supplier...

1. If you explain the type of merchant it should reduce suggestions for cards which earn bonuses in unrelated categories.

2. Are you a principal of the business or an employee?

braffy Sep 4, 2012 9:12 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 19249770)
1. If you explain the type of merchant it should reduce suggestions for cards which earn bonuses in unrelated categories.

2. Are you a principal of the business or an employee?

1. The charges come up as "Other" so I don't think any spending category bonuses would apply.

2. Principal (it's a side business)

mia Sep 4, 2012 9:47 am

I would look at cards with an annual threshold bonus which you are otherwise unlikely to achieve.

Examples:

JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html

Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.

braffy Sep 4, 2012 10:36 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 19250485)
I would look at cards with an annual threshold bonus which you are otherwise unlikely to achieve.

Examples:

JP Morgan Select VISA earns one Ultimate Rewards point per dollar, with a 25,000 point bonus at $100,000. Discussion here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...signature.html

Chase British Airways VISA earns 1.25 points per dollar, with a companion award at $30,000. Make sure you understand the limitations of the companion award before deciding if this has value for you. Primary discussion in the BA forum.

Thank you mia, these are excellent suggestions.

Unfortunately I don't think I will be able to hit the $100K spend for the 25K bonus with the JP Morgan card.

The Chase BA card is an intriguing suggestion due to the companion award. However, if I understand correctly this is only valid on BA operated flights and so they will stick us with their ridiculously high fuel surcharges not once but twice. If this was valid on partner awards I'd be very interested, but I don't believe this is the case.

Any other suggestions out there?

deltame Sep 4, 2012 11:24 am

I see you are 1p with UA so perhaps you'd take a look at UA Club visa card. No forex fee, 1.5 miles per $ spend on all spend, the annul fee is $395 (with $95 credit for 1st year) but it comes with full membership of UA club lounges, no close-in award booking fee, 2 free checked bags etc.

You can also look up no forex cards in the sticky in this forum to evaluate which ones suit your needs best.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...tion-fees.html

sparkzone Sep 4, 2012 11:26 am

just pick any of those sweet chase no forex card and you are set.
I will go for chase ink bold and or plus :)

braffy Sep 4, 2012 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by deltame (Post 19251191)
I see you are 1p with UA so perhaps you'd take a look at UA Club visa card. No forex fee, 1.5 miles per $ spend on all spend, the annul fee is $395 (with $95 credit for 1st year) but it comes with full membership of UA club lounges, no close-in award booking fee, 2 free checked bags etc.

This seems like a very good option... my UA *Gold card doesn't let me into lounges on domestic flights so this would be a nice perk. Also 1.5 miles per $ is very attractive. Further, when logged into my UA account I see an offer for a full waiver of the first year's annual fee.

Does anyone know if there are any differences between the personal and business versions of the club Visa card?


Originally Posted by sparkzone (Post 19251213)
just pick any of those sweet chase no forex card and you are set.
I will go for chase ink bold and or plus :)

The sign up bonuses for the Ink cards are friendly with 50K points each and I can easily meet the minimum spend of $10K in 3 months. Makes me want to sign up for both. Besides one being a charge card and the other a credit card, are there any differences between the Bold and the Plus?

When comparing these two options, it leads me to ask -- what is worth more? 1.5 United miles or 1 Chase UR point? My feeling is the 1.5 UA miles but I'm curious what you all think.

dcpilgrim Sep 4, 2012 3:50 pm

Hilton Reserve gets you Diamond at $40K, w/no Forex. You'd earn a bonus weekend night along the way (@10K). 3 pts per $ for your spend. I'd probably value 60K UA (from the same 40K of spend on the club card) more than 120K + Diamond + 1 weekend night from Hilton, but its competitive, and its not a chase card.

Hyatt is no Forex, but its 1 pt per $. I'd rather have 1.5 UA, or a flexible 1 UR point from or CSP/Ink bold than a hyatt point.


When comparing these two options, it leads me to ask -- what is worth more? 1.5 United miles or 1 Chase UR point? My feeling is the 1.5 UA miles but I'm curious what you all think.
Couldn't hurt to diversify, but United and Hyatt are UR's higher value redemptions, and in that instance 1.5>1.

But your best deal would be to use it to harvest a few bonuses. Is it invoiced once a year or several times a year? If so, on a rolling basis you could grab Ink Bold, spend 10K get the 50K bonus, then Ink Plus (rinse/repeat), etc.

augustus21 Sep 5, 2012 6:28 am


Originally Posted by braffy (Post 19250842)
The Chase BA card is an intriguing suggestion due to the companion award. However, if I understand correctly this is only valid on BA operated flights and so they will stick us with their ridiculously high fuel surcharges not once but twice. If this was valid on partner awards I'd be very interested, but I don't believe this is the case.

Any other suggestions out there?

The companion ticket can only be used on BA flights, but avios work wonders on AA or LAN. The BA card also has a Chip & Signature feature, so it works much better than magnetic strip cards in Europe and Asia. You missed out on a huge sign up bonus, but it is currently 50,000 avios after $1000 spent in 3 months (still not too shabby).


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