Credit Cards That Allow Points Conversion to Airline Miles (1 to 1 or better)
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Can Worldpoints earned from AMEX Fidelity be transferred to another individual's AC account? Does anyone here know or have experience in doing that? Please PM me if you prefer that.
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SPG AMEX can do this, but at 2:1.
Another option is the AMEX Membership Rewards program--I transferred MR pts to CO in the past. However, remember that points earned in the AMEX program are subject to a hefty "excise tax" (I don't believe this is a tax; it is an AMEX fee) of about 1/10th of a cent per pt. So transferring 25,000 miles from an AMEX card to your FF acct will cost you $25.
The Chase card allows you to transfer to only 2 airlines, and has an annual fee.
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Only what currently available? Card that can transfer to CO? Only card with no annual fee?
SPG AMEX can do this, but at 2:1.
Another option is the AMEX Membership Rewards program--I transferred MR pts to CO in the past. However, remember that points earned in the AMEX program are subject to a hefty "excise tax" (I don't believe this is a tax; it is an AMEX fee) of about 1/10th of a cent per pt. So transferring 25,000 miles from an AMEX card to your FF acct will cost you $25.
The Chase card allows you to transfer to only 2 airlines, and has an annual fee.
Others correct any errors or omissions.
SPG AMEX can do this, but at 2:1.
Another option is the AMEX Membership Rewards program--I transferred MR pts to CO in the past. However, remember that points earned in the AMEX program are subject to a hefty "excise tax" (I don't believe this is a tax; it is an AMEX fee) of about 1/10th of a cent per pt. So transferring 25,000 miles from an AMEX card to your FF acct will cost you $25.
The Chase card allows you to transfer to only 2 airlines, and has an annual fee.
Others correct any errors or omissions.
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AMEX SPG converts 1:1.25 if you transfer in batches of 20,000 miles. However, you cannot transfer to CO. You can transfer to AC Aeroplan or US Dividend Miles however and book *A trips.
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Hefty The fee to transfer 25,000 points would be $15.00
For each conversion of points into the Frequent Flyer program of a U.S. airline, an excise tax offset fee of $0.0006 per point, with a maximum fee of $99, will be charged to your Card account. We charge this fee to offset the federal excise tax we must pay on such conversions. The fee may be more or less than the actual amount of the excise tax we pay on any individual conversion. We may offer you the option to redeem points to pay this fee.
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Only what currently available? Card that can transfer to CO? Only card with no annual fee?
SPG AMEX can do this, but at 2:1.
Another option is the AMEX Membership Rewards program--I transferred MR pts to CO in the past. However, remember that points earned in the AMEX program are subject to a hefty "excise tax" (I don't believe this is a tax; it is an AMEX fee) of about 1/10th of a cent per pt. So transferring 25,000 miles from an AMEX card to your FF acct will cost you $25.
The Chase card allows you to transfer to only 2 airlines, and has an annual fee.
Others correct any errors or omissions.
SPG AMEX can do this, but at 2:1.
Another option is the AMEX Membership Rewards program--I transferred MR pts to CO in the past. However, remember that points earned in the AMEX program are subject to a hefty "excise tax" (I don't believe this is a tax; it is an AMEX fee) of about 1/10th of a cent per pt. So transferring 25,000 miles from an AMEX card to your FF acct will cost you $25.
The Chase card allows you to transfer to only 2 airlines, and has an annual fee.
Others correct any errors or omissions.
AMEX MR is ending the ability to transfer to CO in September 2011.
Just how many points do you envision earning on a card, that you can transfer to CO in time?
Otherwise, I would suggest either focusing on transfering to UA (since CO miles will be UA miles in a year or so anyway), or another *A airline as some have suggested.
Meanwhile, the only type of cards that allow you to transfer to airlines that don't have an annual fee transfer at way less than 1:1. They are typically other (besides SPG) hotel cards. The best (5:4) would be WyndhamRewards MC, via Barclays/Juniper.
If you want 1:1, you have to learn to live with annual fees, at least "on paper". If it were AA miles you wanted, you could get a Citi card with first year annual fee waived, and then at least some years try for a "retention" offer which for many people gives an option of getting a credit equal to the annual fee for some sort of minimum number or amount of purchases in the near future (relative to when they call). But I'm not aware of most other banks waiving or offsetting the annual fee on subsuquent years, and Citi doesn't support any other airlines besides AA.
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This is not true if you want to get Air Canada aeroplan miles. The Fidelity Investment Rewards Amex will net you 2 miles/dollar and the Fidelity Visa Signature will net you 1.5 miles/dollar, and both cards do not have annual fees.
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If I have an AA or UA or US or whatever airline card, the issuing bank must pay the airline for the miles it buys to distribute to cardholders and must pay a 7.5% Federal Excise tax on the amount paid.
The bank recovers these costs (both for the miles and the tax) by charging annual fees and, of course, through merchant transactional fees.
Considering the entry level MR card carries an annual fee of over $100 to begin with and that AMEX charges merchants higher transaction fees than the other 3 networks this additional fee is gratuitous. Most members are unaware the fee even exists until they transfer their miles for the first time--AMEX is counting on it.
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Is Aeroplan the only program the Fidelity card is linked to? And am I correct in assuming that one does not need to actually open a Fidelity brokerage account? Does Aeroplan have partner redemption fees?
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2. Correct. You do not need to have a Fidelity brokerage account.
3. I'm not sure what you mean by "partner redemption fees." Do you mean charging an additional fee to book a United, Continental, etc. flight using aeroplan miles? Or do you mean charging to convert Fidelity Rewards points to aeroplan miles? The answer to both is "no."
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Considering the entry level MR card carries an annual fee of over $100 to begin with and that AMEX charges merchants higher transaction fees than the other 3 networks this additional fee is gratuitous. Most members are unaware the fee even exists until they transfer their miles for the first time--AMEX is counting on it.