CDC pre-departure lawsuit cases updates?
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CDC pre-departure lawsuit cases updates?
As we all know, we are subject to this rule for more than a year and I did see some information online that there are multiple pending lawsuits on this decision. However I don’t see much new information and want to see if others know more about those cases.
Obviously it’s a huge interest to me and many others since we have to figure how and where and when to take tests every time we need to fly back to USA.
Obviously it’s a huge interest to me and many others since we have to figure how and where and when to take tests every time we need to fly back to USA.
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As we all know, we are subject to this rule for more than a year and I did see some information online that there are multiple pending lawsuits on this decision. However I don’t see much new information and want to see if others know more about those cases.
Obviously it’s a huge interest to me and many others since we have to figure how and where and when to take tests every time we need to fly back to USA.
Obviously it’s a huge interest to me and many others since we have to figure how and where and when to take tests every time we need to fly back to USA.
#3
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Also interested in any updates since 95% of the flying I do is international so for me I cant really consider taking off my mask based on yesterdays decision until this is lifted as I have no desire to be stuck for a weeks overseas.
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I understand the risk of being stuck overseas for an extra 7-10 days if you catch Covid (the risk I'm myself taking right now while in London/Rome), but that's the current state of affairs whether or not there is a mask and/or testing requirement. And I assume of course that people won't knowingly travel while infected.
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USA does not require a test for entry via land border.
There are many airports near the border with easy transfer by land (Tijuana-SanDiego, Brownsville-Matamoros, ElPaso-Juarez, Windsor-Detroit, Vancouver-Seattle, Niagara-Buffalo, Montreal-Burlington, SaultSteMarie etc).
The above facts should mean that you never ever have to be stuck abroad unless departing from a dwindling handful of countries in Africa that require a covid test to enter the airport regardless of destination.
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Unlike the mask mandate, this is bad policy - not merely questionable politics. While the mask decision was extraordinarily poorly reasoned and political, functionally denying entry of American persons to the US using this testing requirement probably is illegal.
#8
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Logistics of flying into Canada to avoid test
How does this actually work? If my destination is Toronto, for example, departure from Rome does American airlines look at the Canadian destination and let me board without a test?
Of course I am fully vaccinated soon to get #4 Moderna shot.
Of course I am fully vaccinated soon to get #4 Moderna shot.
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No. Since you'll have to enter US to take your US to Canada flight, you need to satisfy all rules for US entry.
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Land border x ing
To clarify my ?...land border crossing...arrival in Toronto, for example and take one of the many vehicle shuttle services from Toronto Airport to Buffalo Airport .
Then it would be domestic air travel to fly home to Charlotte NC.
Has anyone done this or similar?
Then it would be domestic air travel to fly home to Charlotte NC.
Has anyone done this or similar?
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The plaintiff for one of the testing lawsuits has a blog with updates (also seems to have had a mask lawsuit going). I didn't sift through it all in detail but it looks like the last action may have been a District Court ruling on various motions by both parties back in December...
https://lucas.travel/category/testing-lawsuits/
https://lucas.travel/category/testing-lawsuits/
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There's no land crossing testing requirement so you should be good. If your flight from Rome to Toronto doesn't include the Buffalo to Charlotte segment, not sure they would care.
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So for example, if you fly BA LHR-MEX and then Aeromexico MEX-TIJ and use the bridge, no mask mandate plus no testing requirement (and getting from there to SAN via taxi/rideshare is feasible).
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This isn't a lawsuit but wasn't sure where else to place it, given the other testing policy discussion thread is locked. 15 House of Representatives Members (from both parties) sent a letter to the White House asking for a change in policy, on 12 April:
https://correa.house.gov/news/press-...ng-requirement
PDF of the letter is on the linked page. Granted, 15 is a drop in the bucket but it's better than nothing I guess.
https://correa.house.gov/news/press-...ng-requirement
We proudly represent communities where travel and tourism is a key driver of jobs and economic activity, and write today to respectfully request that fully vaccinated travelers be exempted from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) current order requiring proof of a negative coronavirus (COVID-19) test or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 for all air passengers arriving from a foreign country (“inbound testing order”).[1] Doing so would bring the U.S. in line with the decision of other countries to drop such testing requirements, including in Europe, Latin America and South Asia.
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travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/covid-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada#arrival