EU to impose entry requirements on travellers From US (updated 30 Aug)
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The home tests that you buy, including the Binax Now, are antigen and even the monitored one will not qualify for entry into any country that has changed to requiring a PCR test. To the best of my knowledge there is no remote (do it yourself with monitoring) PCR test available.
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I was able to book a drive-through test at a CVS a couple miles from my house for Wednesday at almost exactly 72 hours prior to (scheduled) departure... And I have a stockpile of the Abbot Binax Now kits because I had to buy 6... Was planning on bringing 2 each for my wife and I just in case which leaves 2 we can break out to (attempt) pre-departure DIY-proctored testing if it comes to it...
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Not only that, but there is a movement away from antigen tests in general, so past acceptance (of antigen tests) means nothing. If traveling overseas, do not rely on an antigen test to pass entry requirements. Presently the only thing they are absolutely good for is entry back into the US, and as I said in another post, that could change if the US and EU come to terms and adopt a common standard for entry (full vaccination + PCR test within 72hr of departure would be the obvious choice).
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"Rapid" and "PCR" are not exactly mutually exclusive, but largely so. "Rapid" almost always refers to the antigen test, which is losing favor and not what I'd recommend for "insurance" against a new entry requirement added without your knowledge.
There is a version of PCR that is pretty fast, but it is assuredly not the norm. The typical PCR test takes 24 hours to get results back. The antigen test just 15-60 minutes. The home tests that you buy, including the Binax Now, are antigen and even the monitored one will not qualify for entry into any country that has changed to requiring a PCR test. To the best of my knowledge there is no remote (do it yourself with monitoring) PCR test available.
The antigen test is adequate for entry back into the US, but that could change if the US administration decides to endorse a relatively-safe universal standard for the US and EU that would require both vaccinations and a negative PCR test. Europe is definitely heading away from the antigen test being considered adequate.
There is a version of PCR that is pretty fast, but it is assuredly not the norm. The typical PCR test takes 24 hours to get results back. The antigen test just 15-60 minutes. The home tests that you buy, including the Binax Now, are antigen and even the monitored one will not qualify for entry into any country that has changed to requiring a PCR test. To the best of my knowledge there is no remote (do it yourself with monitoring) PCR test available.
The antigen test is adequate for entry back into the US, but that could change if the US administration decides to endorse a relatively-safe universal standard for the US and EU that would require both vaccinations and a negative PCR test. Europe is definitely heading away from the antigen test being considered adequate.
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Each EU country has different requirements, but more importantly... in terms of border-entry, I don't think the BinaxNow kits (even the proctored EMed version) have been accepted by any(?) country except the US. Usually border-entry wants a lab-certified result with a sample taken the "traditional" way, whether that's PCR/NAAT, Antigen, LAMP, Potato, Chicken, or Bear.
In conclusion, in terms of borders, the BinaxNow (with EMed proctoring) kits "only" work for US-reentry, and the BinaxNow (without EMed proctoring) "only" work for your own peace of mind.
In conclusion, in terms of borders, the BinaxNow (with EMed proctoring) kits "only" work for US-reentry, and the BinaxNow (without EMed proctoring) "only" work for your own peace of mind.
There have been a number of reports on FT from people successfully using the proctored Binax tests for entry into the EU and UK.
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Yes, I'm interested in this too, as I'm (hopefully) heading to the UK in 10 days. Would love to be able to use the proctored Binax test for UK entry, as I had to buy 6 of them! - I understand that I can..
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"Rapid" and "PCR" are not exactly mutually exclusive, but largely so. "Rapid" almost always refers to the antigen test, which is losing favor and not what I'd recommend for "insurance" against a new entry requirement added without your knowledge.
There is a version of PCR that is pretty fast, but it is assuredly not the norm. The typical PCR test takes 24 hours to get results back. The antigen test just 15-60 minutes. The home tests that you buy, including the Binax Now, are antigen and even the monitored one will not qualify for entry into any country that has changed to requiring a PCR test. To the best of my knowledge there is no remote (do it yourself with monitoring) PCR test available.
The antigen test is adequate for entry back into the US, but that could change if the US administration decides to endorse a relatively-safe universal standard for the US and EU that would require both vaccinations and a negative PCR test. Europe is definitely heading away from the antigen test being considered adequate.
There is a version of PCR that is pretty fast, but it is assuredly not the norm. The typical PCR test takes 24 hours to get results back. The antigen test just 15-60 minutes. The home tests that you buy, including the Binax Now, are antigen and even the monitored one will not qualify for entry into any country that has changed to requiring a PCR test. To the best of my knowledge there is no remote (do it yourself with monitoring) PCR test available.
The antigen test is adequate for entry back into the US, but that could change if the US administration decides to endorse a relatively-safe universal standard for the US and EU that would require both vaccinations and a negative PCR test. Europe is definitely heading away from the antigen test being considered adequate.
Results take 2 or 3 days. In fact I didn't get results until I'd arrived. Except for the first trip in June to Spain and France, I didn't need to have a test in addition to my vaccine CDC card. But I took them anyways, easy to do, no cost.
Walgreens doesn't offer the antigen tests in the Bay Area for some reason.
There are now testing labs at SFO and SJC which will do antigen or rapid PCR tests but they cost over $100 and up. I tried to check them for prices but you can't get anyone on the phone or respond by email. You have to go through the booking process, almost finalize it, before they hit you up for money.
Yeah it would be nice to have antigen tests offered at pharmacies like they have them in the EU, for around 25 Euros.
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I was able to book a drive-through test at a CVS a couple miles from my house for Wednesday at almost exactly 72 hours prior to (scheduled) departure... And I have a stockpile of the Abbot Binax Now kits because I had to buy 6... Was planning on bringing 2 each for my wife and I just in case which leaves 2 we can break out to (attempt) pre-departure DIY-proctored testing if it comes to it...
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Not only that, but there is a movement away from antigen tests in general, so past acceptance (of antigen tests) means nothing. If traveling overseas, do not rely on an antigen test to pass entry requirements. Presently the only thing they are absolutely good for is entry back into the US, and as I said in another post, that could change if the US and EU come to terms and adopt a common standard for entry (full vaccination + PCR test within 72hr of departure would be the obvious choice).
Meanwhile, within the USA, I haven't yet noticed any testing requirements for schools, sports teams, etc. that specify PCR tests, although my impression is that sports teams would confirm positive antigen tests with PCR tests.
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Home PCR testing isn't going to cut it
OK, I looked up mail-in PCR tests and couldn't find any that are meant for pre-travel requirements. From the website of one of them-
The average time to deliver results is currently 1-2 days from when your sample is received at the lab. Our labs process samples seven days a week. Check with your local FedEx for pick up and drop off schedules.
PCRTESTING Individual and pooled saliva-based PCR tests
Modalities: At home via ZoomResults: 24-48 hours from sample collection
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https://www.esteri.it/mae/resource/d..._30_agosto.pdf
This says
"Canada, Japan and the United States: persons travelling to Italy after having transited through or stayed in these Countries in the prior 14 days shall be required to compile the digital passenger locator form (PLF) and present a green Covid-19 pass issued by the respective local health authorities and considered equivalent (vaccination with an EMA-approved vaccine; recovery from Covid-19 and completion of the isolation period; negative fast antigen or molecular swab test taken within the last 48 hours before entering Italy). Travellers without a green pass shall be subject to the same general restrictions provided in list D."
Which doesn't show the AND for a negative test. Also looks to be official and from today if I'm reading the date right.
This says
"Canada, Japan and the United States: persons travelling to Italy after having transited through or stayed in these Countries in the prior 14 days shall be required to compile the digital passenger locator form (PLF) and present a green Covid-19 pass issued by the respective local health authorities and considered equivalent (vaccination with an EMA-approved vaccine; recovery from Covid-19 and completion of the isolation period; negative fast antigen or molecular swab test taken within the last 48 hours before entering Italy). Travellers without a green pass shall be subject to the same general restrictions provided in list D."
Which doesn't show the AND for a negative test. Also looks to be official and from today if I'm reading the date right.
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Tough to see how a mail-in test could fit the requirements. Whether mailed-in or otherwise, the test has to take place within 72 hours of departure. That's playing one heck of a gamble on "mail" to get to the lab in time to do the tests and get results back to you.
OK, I looked up mail-in PCR tests and couldn't find any that are meant for pre-travel requirements. From the website of one of them- Or from Vault- Clearly not useful for the timeframe needed for travel requirements. It is something you can successfully perform from home, but the time until you get results will be the time spent "in the mail" plus 24-48 hours at the lab.
OK, I looked up mail-in PCR tests and couldn't find any that are meant for pre-travel requirements. From the website of one of them- Or from Vault- Clearly not useful for the timeframe needed for travel requirements. It is something you can successfully perform from home, but the time until you get results will be the time spent "in the mail" plus 24-48 hours at the lab.
Obviously it shouldn't work for any place that requires a nasal sample.
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The page you and I highlighted was specific to entering from other countries, but having been in the US in the last 14 days.
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However, many of the tests that are quick/cheap/readily available are antigen. For places and events that require a recent negative test, as a practical matter, antigen would make more sense even if it's less accurate. We don't have unlimited PCR testing resources.
Meanwhile, within the USA, I haven't yet noticed any testing requirements for schools, sports teams, etc. that specify PCR tests, although my impression is that sports teams would confirm positive antigen tests with PCR tests.
Meanwhile, within the USA, I haven't yet noticed any testing requirements for schools, sports teams, etc. that specify PCR tests, although my impression is that sports teams would confirm positive antigen tests with PCR tests.
There's a recent thread in a Gate1 travel group where a woman was transiting through CDG and the airline refused to board her for the flight to CDG because they said CDG had implemented a requirement for transit passengers for a PCR test. Note that I haven't found reference to than on the CDG website. The passenger experience right now is being dictated by a combination of fact, fiction and presumption. We can still try and plan for that and there's nothing further an airline or country can do (in terms of entry requirements), short of quarantine and outright refusal, beyond a PCR test taken within 72 hours.

