Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
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New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
May 5, 2021, 3:25 pm
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Well, it's G7 in Cornwall, followed by NATO in Brussels. So too early to conclude whether or not it goes partially virtual or not. I wouldn't even be certain that there would be a joint statement that does much of anything about opening up TATL travel. Covid-19 is bigger than just TATL travel.
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yes, but Biden travelling (or not travelling) over the Atlantic from the US to the UK carries quite some symbolic significance.
Again: I am updating my prediction; Do not expect an official statement of the lifting before July 4, 2021.
Again: I am updating my prediction; Do not expect an official statement of the lifting before July 4, 2021.
May 5, 2021, 3:45 pm
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Biden is also expected to meet with Putin.
May 5, 2021, 6:34 pm
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Biden going or not going to the UK won’t have any special significance in regards to opening up hassle feee trans Atlantic travel. Everyone here seems to be so excited about the possibility that they are seeking hidden meanings in how the G7 is conducted.
With the EU having problems vaccinating people in a speedy manner and the USA having problems with a large segment of people refusing to take the vaccine even though their god emperor took it, there is unlikely to be a true opening up of trans Atlantic travel this year. My prediction is December 2021. The fact is the governments are far less excited about the opening of travel than we citizens are.
At least it’s better than where I am in Asia where I don’t expect a true opening until 2023-2024.
With the EU having problems vaccinating people in a speedy manner and the USA having problems with a large segment of people refusing to take the vaccine even though their god emperor took it, there is unlikely to be a true opening up of trans Atlantic travel this year. My prediction is December 2021. The fact is the governments are far less excited about the opening of travel than we citizens are.
At least it’s better than where I am in Asia where I don’t expect a true opening until 2023-2024.
May 5, 2021, 6:36 pm
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It would have been symbolic, to cement the trans Atlantic alliance, with announcement about TATL travel opening back up.
After all, we don't expect Biden to have to test in order to return or stay in Mexico before re-entering the US, do we?
After all, we don't expect Biden to have to test in order to return or stay in Mexico before re-entering the US, do we?
May 5, 2021, 7:13 pm
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Sovereign immunity means no legal testing requirement applicable. Even without sovereign immunity, US citizens and US LPRs can fly from the UK-IRL CTA and EU/Schengen countries to the US without any 14 day stay in Mexico or elsewhere; but there is a testing requirement applicable even for the vaccinated without sovereign immunity. Even without sovereign immunity, flight crews come into the US without a US-required Covid-19 test.
May 6, 2021, 1:24 am
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What is sovereign immunity?
That would be a doomsday scenario for network airlines + for the economies like Thailand.
It seems that the death/hospitalization rates are rapidly going down in the UK/US/Israel -> why is that? Probably because a large section of the population had been vaccinated. At one point (e.g. in July 2021) one must ask what are the real risks in opening transatlantic travel?
My prediction is December 2021. The fact is the governments are far less excited about the opening of travel than we citizens are.
At least it’s better than where I am in Asia where I don’t expect a true opening until 2023-2024.
It seems that the death/hospitalization rates are rapidly going down in the UK/US/Israel -> why is that? Probably because a large section of the population had been vaccinated. At one point (e.g. in July 2021) one must ask what are the real risks in opening transatlantic travel?
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The ruling isn't based on nationality, its based on where you've been the previous 14 days, which is why a lot of people are stopping at 3rd part countries that are not subject to the same restrictions but again you need to be away from the UK for 14days to be able to enter the US.
May 6, 2021, 6:29 am
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You can if you hang around Mexico for 14 days on the way.
The ruling isn't based on nationality, its based on where you've been the previous 14 days, which is why a lot of people are stopping at 3rd part countries that are not subject to the same restrictions but again you need to be away from the UK for 14days to be able to enter the US.
The ruling isn't based on nationality, its based on where you've been the previous 14 days, which is why a lot of people are stopping at 3rd part countries that are not subject to the same restrictions but again you need to be away from the UK for 14days to be able to enter the US.
Does Mexico (and other countries in the region) stamp passports with the arrival date? Or is there an option to use automated gate without stamping?
May 6, 2021, 6:54 am
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You may get away with just walking in, but again you may get caught and turned away and whatever visa you are on could be cancelled, I wouldn't recommend it personally.
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Can someone from UK fly to Mexico City, from there to Tijuana and cross to US by foot?
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I just read the whole thread and there are a lot of interesting thoughts. I hope the information (sorry I forgot the name of author) that nothing will change until at least 4th July 2021 will not be confirmed. I have tickets from PRG to LAX (through LHR) for 22 June and I still have last bits of hopes that it will be possible to fly.