Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
May 26, 2021, 10:41 am
#436
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The problem is that if you check-in to a US-bound flight (departing from UK, Ireland, Schengen ...), your ESTA will be cancelled automatically.
And in some cases those ESTAs were cancelled without a prior online-checkin, because the airline systems have sent over the ESTA data sets to US CBP, which in turn auto-cancelled them.
What is important: You should not have an active booking to the US, while the travel ban is still in place.
And in some cases those ESTAs were cancelled without a prior online-checkin, because the airline systems have sent over the ESTA data sets to US CBP, which in turn auto-cancelled them.
What is important: You should not have an active booking to the US, while the travel ban is still in place.
May 26, 2021, 10:49 am
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It is the case, but you are missing the point. Your ESTA will be cancelled if you try to check in to a flight from the UK, Schengen, etc. You. An still have an active booking and a valid ESTA though.
May 26, 2021, 10:54 am
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Not that I know of, but I've never had one cancelled. I almost did, though, when I tried to board a flight in St. Lucia to the US on the 14th day after my arrival, only realising after trying to check-in that it needed to have been the 14th day I'd spent outside the UK/EU... 
ESTA still shows as valid when checked on the CBP site.
ESTA still shows as valid when checked on the CBP site.
May 26, 2021, 11:00 am
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May 26, 2021, 11:13 am
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Yes by email. However, there is no need to worry unless you have completed your API in a booking which contains a flight from UK/Schengen to the US and it is still a live booking with less than a week to go before the actual flight when data starts to get sent across to the US CBP.
ETSAs are not getting cancelled other than the example noted above, and you can still apply for an ESTA and travel on one in to the US as long as it is not on a flight originating from the banned area.
I don't believe the system would have picked that one up and auto-cancelled your ESTA before your flight. It is more geared towards cancelling ESTAs for those trying to enter directly from a country with a travel restriction so the UK/Schengen etc,
ETSAs are not getting cancelled other than the example noted above, and you can still apply for an ESTA and travel on one in to the US as long as it is not on a flight originating from the banned area.
I don't believe the system would have picked that one up and auto-cancelled your ESTA before your flight. It is more geared towards cancelling ESTAs for those trying to enter directly from a country with a travel restriction so the UK/Schengen etc,
Last edited by KARFA; May 26, 2021 at 11:19 am
May 26, 2021, 12:53 pm
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The problem is that if you check-in to a US-bound flight (departing from UK, Ireland, Schengen ...), your ESTA will be cancelled automatically.
And in some cases those ESTAs were cancelled without a prior online-checkin, because the airline systems have sent over the ESTA data sets to US CBP, which in turn auto-cancelled them.
What is important: You should not have an active booking to the US, while the travel ban is still in place.
And in some cases those ESTAs were cancelled without a prior online-checkin, because the airline systems have sent over the ESTA data sets to US CBP, which in turn auto-cancelled them.
What is important: You should not have an active booking to the US, while the travel ban is still in place.
My esta was cancelled even if I haven't done any check-in or any booking in pending. Probably, I've only done some search on AirFrance website while logged on my flyngblue account and AF has sent my information directly to US CBP.
So: be aware if you don't wanna miss your money!
May 26, 2021, 12:58 pm
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May 26, 2021, 1:00 pm
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Here I am.
My esta was cancelled even if I haven't done any check-in or any booking in pending. Probably, I've only done some search on AirFrance website while logged on my flyngblue account and AF has sent my information directly to US CBP.
So: be aware if you don't wanna miss your money!
My esta was cancelled even if I haven't done any check-in or any booking in pending. Probably, I've only done some search on AirFrance website while logged on my flyngblue account and AF has sent my information directly to US CBP.
So: be aware if you don't wanna miss your money!
if anyone is interested by my data point : my ESTA has not been cancelled, despite having several active France-US bookings (all cancelled weeks before the trip) and having looked a lot at flights on AF site.
May 26, 2021, 1:19 pm
#445
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That is getting more and more weird. How can AF send any info of logged user into CBP and they cancel ESTA? I mean yeah you can submit new application but I don't want to spend $28 everytime I have to reschedule my flight with BA.
May 26, 2021, 1:26 pm
#446
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Your ESTA has certainly not been cancelled because you have searched for flights on AF site
if anyone is interested by my data point : my ESTA has not been cancelled, despite having several active France-US bookings (all cancelled weeks before the trip) and having looked a lot at flights on AF site.
if anyone is interested by my data point : my ESTA has not been cancelled, despite having several active France-US bookings (all cancelled weeks before the trip) and having looked a lot at flights on AF site.
Probably, I've done a research for a flight leaving next day or same day of the search and, going ahead with the procedure, the system created the PNR. That's why Af have sent my ESTA to CBP.
That's my data point.
May 26, 2021, 1:33 pm
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Hi Goldorak, you know very well that AF website creates a PNR if you go ahead on the next steps of searching flights.
Probably, I've done a research for a flight leaving next day or same day of the search and, going ahead with the procedure, the system created the PNR. That's why Af have sent my ESTA to CBP.
That's my data point.
Probably, I've done a research for a flight leaving next day or same day of the search and, going ahead with the procedure, the system created the PNR. That's why Af have sent my ESTA to CBP.
That's my data point.
May 26, 2021, 1:39 pm
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May 26, 2021, 1:57 pm
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Yes, but to this I would add that the EU has made the first move: they're allowing Americans even though the Americans aren't allowing Europeans. If the reason for the ban is that vaccinated Europeans might bring covid variants to the US... Well, it's a certainty that Americans will be visiting Europe. The risk of a vaccinated American bringing a variant home is exactly the same as the risk of a vaccinated European bringing one here. And to be clear, that risk is functionally zero.
So the EU opening travel to Americans negates the only potentially legitimate objection to America opening for Europeans.
So the EU opening travel to Americans negates the only potentially legitimate objection to America opening for Europeans.
May 26, 2021, 10:22 pm
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My family (fully vaccinated) started their 2 weeks stay in Mexico today, originating from London. They will will come to LA on June 10th. If you want to travel to the US this summer, this is still your best route by far. A lifting of the restrictions is not in sight at all as long as 600+ folks still die of Covid – everyday – in the US. For reference, 964 new Covid-19 deaths were reported in the US for today (Wed 26th May).
Last edited by destone; May 26, 2021 at 10:29 pm