Booking travel in 2020 for 2021
#16
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 284
Regarding insurance, if you are referring to travel insurance, most policies I've had have a clause saying they don't cover pandemics so I would be very familiar with what they cover and don't cover. I don;t suppose they are selling many policies right now with that clause so there may be changes in that regard.
#17
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New Zealand (when I'm home!)
Programs: Air NZ Elite
Posts: 1,218
I wish I could! But it's just so uncertain right now what will and won't be open, what flights will be available, what businesses will survive, etc. How the virus will spread. Will a vaccine exist, how effective will it be, who knows.
I do like to plan out which countries I will go to and what I want to do at them when this is over just for fun (up #1 on that list, visit family I deeply miss), but I don't make any bookings.
With the situation as it is in New Zealand, except for any travel corridors that open up late this year/early next year, I doubt I'll be traveling again until late 2021 at the earliest. I would love to be proven wrong though! Go ahead universe, I won't mind being wrong.
I do like to plan out which countries I will go to and what I want to do at them when this is over just for fun (up #1 on that list, visit family I deeply miss), but I don't make any bookings.
With the situation as it is in New Zealand, except for any travel corridors that open up late this year/early next year, I doubt I'll be traveling again until late 2021 at the earliest. I would love to be proven wrong though! Go ahead universe, I won't mind being wrong.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: WAS
Programs: Virtuoso TA, UA 1MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott LT Platinum
Posts: 445
Very fortunate you didn't have to cancel cruises. Cruise refunds are coming back very very slowly. I have some clients who still have yet to get their cruise refunds for March/April travel. It is taking longer than airline refunds.
#19
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Programs: KL Gold, SQ KF Gold, CX Green
Posts: 9,404
Everyone booking fully refundable fares should be careful: it is far from certain that all airlines, hotel chains, individual hotels, car rental companies, cruise companies, etc. will survive this pandemic. It is hard getting money back from a bankrupt company or a company that no longer exists.
#20
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: M&S Elite+
Posts: 3,654
Everyone booking fully refundable fares should be careful: it is far from certain that all airlines, hotel chains, individual hotels, car rental companies, cruise companies, etc. will survive this pandemic. It is hard getting money back from a bankrupt company or a company that no longer exists.
#21
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
Everyone booking fully refundable fares should be careful: it is far from certain that all airlines, hotel chains, individual hotels, car rental companies, cruise companies, etc. will survive this pandemic. It is hard getting money back from a bankrupt company or a company that no longer exists.
#22
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
I booked travel for March 2021, and we got a really good price to Cape Town, SA. I am just praying that by that time, we are allowed to travel to other countries from the USA. We can't blame them for being wary about Americans the way our country is handling COVID19.
#23
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LHR/ATH
Programs: Amex Platinum, LH SEN (Gold), BA Bronze
Posts: 4,489
I would book it with an airline I know that will not fail (e.g. Lufthansa), fully flexible and the same with the hotel using a credit card. Last minute bookings are the fashion trend these days, I would right now not book anything beyond September of this year.
#24
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: DTW
Programs: DL - PM, (NW - Plat), AA - Gold, Marriott - Plat, Avis - First
Posts: 955
We just booked a family ski trip to Colorado in early-Feb 2021. It was never really a question or hesitation.
The condo we prepay 50% now but fully refundable up to 30 days prior to arrival (normal policy), or in the event the ski resort is closed at the time of or arrival (new covid-era policy).
At least by early Jan we will see how they make it through the busy holiday period, as we are going at a non-busy time midweek before Presidents Day weekend.
I'm debating whether to book airfare by the end of the month, to get in under the "no-change fee" waiver through the end of July (that will likely be extended), or just wait until October/November.
I'll probably just wait since there will probably be 10 flight reschedules between now and them anyways, and flying to DEN is easy to get flights really anytime.
Some other things, we are starting to block time on schedules and talk about things but we aren't booking anything further at this time.
I've got some personal travel I want to get in later this year in 2020 in October & November, but its all TBD at this time.
The condo we prepay 50% now but fully refundable up to 30 days prior to arrival (normal policy), or in the event the ski resort is closed at the time of or arrival (new covid-era policy).
At least by early Jan we will see how they make it through the busy holiday period, as we are going at a non-busy time midweek before Presidents Day weekend.
I'm debating whether to book airfare by the end of the month, to get in under the "no-change fee" waiver through the end of July (that will likely be extended), or just wait until October/November.
I'll probably just wait since there will probably be 10 flight reschedules between now and them anyways, and flying to DEN is easy to get flights really anytime.
Some other things, we are starting to block time on schedules and talk about things but we aren't booking anything further at this time.
I've got some personal travel I want to get in later this year in 2020 in October & November, but its all TBD at this time.
#25
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YUL
Posts: 1,001
We booked 6 weeks in Mexico for Jan 2021 way back in February. So it will be covered by our travel insurance no matter what. I will not buy flights until much, much closer to the date, unless they are almost free.
I had so many trips booked this year, and it has taken me until now to get most of the money back. I am feeling trips will be planned much more last minute until a vaccine is discovered.
I had so many trips booked this year, and it has taken me until now to get most of the money back. I am feeling trips will be planned much more last minute until a vaccine is discovered.
#26
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,943
We just booked a family ski trip to Colorado in early-Feb 2021. It was never really a question or hesitation.
The condo we prepay 50% now but fully refundable up to 30 days prior to arrival (normal policy), or in the event the ski resort is closed at the time of or arrival (new covid-era policy).
At least by early Jan we will see how they make it through the busy holiday period, as we are going at a non-busy time midweek before Presidents Day weekend.
I'm debating whether to book airfare by the end of the month, to get in under the "no-change fee" waiver through the end of July (that will likely be extended), or just wait until October/November.
I'll probably just wait since there will probably be 10 flight reschedules between now and them anyways, and flying to DEN is easy to get flights really anytime.
Some other things, we are starting to block time on schedules and talk about things but we aren't booking anything further at this time.
I've got some personal travel I want to get in later this year in 2020 in October & November, but its all TBD at this time.
The condo we prepay 50% now but fully refundable up to 30 days prior to arrival (normal policy), or in the event the ski resort is closed at the time of or arrival (new covid-era policy).
At least by early Jan we will see how they make it through the busy holiday period, as we are going at a non-busy time midweek before Presidents Day weekend.
I'm debating whether to book airfare by the end of the month, to get in under the "no-change fee" waiver through the end of July (that will likely be extended), or just wait until October/November.
I'll probably just wait since there will probably be 10 flight reschedules between now and them anyways, and flying to DEN is easy to get flights really anytime.
Some other things, we are starting to block time on schedules and talk about things but we aren't booking anything further at this time.
I've got some personal travel I want to get in later this year in 2020 in October & November, but its all TBD at this time.
#27
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: SAS EBS / *A Silver, Hilton Diamond, Radisson VIP, IHG Platinum Ambassador
Posts: 3,771
Many European epicentres have been in ski resorts. Of course, it's probably not skiing itself but related activities, e.g. being cramped with people in a poorly ventilated hut while having a drink (I can hardly imagine having a good time without going inside to warm a bit every now and then).
#28
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: M&S Elite+
Posts: 3,654
Many European epicentres have been in ski resorts. Of course, it's probably not skiing itself but related activities, e.g. being cramped with people in a poorly ventilated hut while having a drink (I can hardly imagine having a good time without going inside to warm a bit every now and then).
#29
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 4
I am personally planning a return to 'normal' in Fall…2021
#30
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Having had to deal with cancellations of revenue airfare and lodging cost this year, I am reluctant to buy anything for 2021. However, I am booking 2021 travel on points as if there is no pandemic. If I can travel - great; if not, easier to get my points back than my cash back.