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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I guess the person who wrote that has never traveled with a baby.

There is no way they will successfully eliminate hand luggage.
Exactly and guarantee your valuables won't go missing. If it's safe to travel baggage is irrelevant.

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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by paulaf
Originally Posted by stimpy
I guess the person who wrote that has never traveled with a baby.

There is no way they will successfully eliminate hand luggage.
Exactly and guarantee your valuables won't go missing. If it's safe to travel baggage is irrelevant.
But this thread isn't about what you wish was happening. I wish we didn't have a Coronavirus problem and travel was normal. But IF travel starts, and IF you can't take any hand-luggage other than phone and/or laptop, will that affect your travel patterns?
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by sbrower
But this thread isn't about what you wish was happening. I wish we didn't have a Coronavirus problem and travel was normal. But IF travel starts, and IF you can't take any hand-luggage other than phone and/or laptop, will that affect your travel patterns?
So you too have never traveled with a baby?
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
So you too have never traveled with a baby?
I have. You couldn't do it without carry on. So you are agreeing - if no carry-on was allowed it would affect your travel, at least the parts where you would have wanted to bring a baby.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by behuman
No priority boarding, but starting from the back of the plane.
No hand luggage to minimize contacts (overhead bins).
No catering at all for flights less than 150 minutes.
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the first and the third are easy to implement but the second is not and it really doesnt offer much benefit... just put a purell station at the gate and perhaps onboard by the lav to sanitize hands..
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 2:20 pm
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I have a feeling there is going to be an inordinate amount of "theater" in the air travel domain as things start to open up. We've seen this game played out before in the post-9/11 era. Its going to be just more security theater and stuff that makes people feel good or make people in a position of authority feel like they did something.


I'm pretty sure I am not going to want to resume air travel anytime probably this year. I suspect I will be driving places a lot farther than I normally would in the past.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 3:22 pm
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I have a feeling there is going to be an inordinate amount of "theater" in the air travel domain as things start to open up.
Yes, passenger conflicts over who is invading their space, not wearing their mask, wanting to be re-seated. Asking for FA interventions. At the same time, FAs will threaten deplaning if they don't like how you are not following social distancing directives, or anything else that gets up their dander.Will flights get diverted due to security concerns if someone falls ill? I'd hate to be a passenger with post-nasal drip who coughs while entering a plane or while anywhere near a FA.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 3:27 pm
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Oh yes.....its going to be bad once the masses start traveling again. Remember how paranoid everyone was post-9/11 when someone did something they felt was odd, looked at them funny, spoke a different language.

Its going to be stupid x1000 with this. Flights will deplane when someone coughs are sneezes, people will pull the emergency exits on the ground.

I have zero desire to fly again until next winter when I can hopefully go skiing out west.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 3:28 pm
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So “flying while brown/Muslim/other” may have finally met more than its match in “flying with allergies/asthma/emphysema”?
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by behuman
No priority boarding, but starting from the back of the plane.
No hand luggage to minimize contacts (overhead bins).
No catering at all for flights less than 150 minutes.
I'd suppose the objective is to minimise transmission risk once on the plane. Your fellow passengers and crew are set by then.
#1 probably has some marginal benefit ... but any droplets emitted from an infected traveler walking back will simply land on the arm rest rather than the arm/face.
#2 I don't see any benefit here. Either you take good care of what you touch and where it has been or you don't ... you can carry more useful preventative aids in that luggage than any risk hand luggage prevents.
#3 Yeh, I like this one. Not a Top 3 mitigation methinks but some mileage in this one. 150 minutes likely too long in a dry old plane with no water round. 90 minutes would work, maybe. A fringe benefit would possibly be less lav use and in turn reducing one high traffic area and general passenger movement.

BUT ... Proper cleaning of the plane, Use of masks to reduce transmission risks, proper self-protection by each passenger, strong hygiene practices .... all contribute much more to onboard transmission risk reduction as far as I'm aware.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by littlefish
I'd suppose the objective is to minimise transmission risk once on the plane. Your fellow passengers and crew are set by then.
#1 probably has some marginal benefit ... but any droplets emitted from an infected traveler walking back will simply land on the arm rest rather than the arm/face.
They may land on people anyway. Blow a lot of bubbles and see what can happen to them.

That said, the greater risk is probably from being close to a person with a high viral load or from the virus being on surfaces which a passenger may physically contact.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 12:46 am
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If only someone had told those people in New York and other hotspots to avoid carry on luggage, this whole pandemic could have been avoided!
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Old May 2, 2020 | 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by LoungeLizzard
I can imagine that some countries want to find quicker solutions. Most notably Thailand appears a prime candidate.
They seem to love the Chinese recently and will try hard to find ways to also enable other nationalities back in to get the tourism industry at least off the ground.
It may seem improbable now, but I would not be surprised to see the first tourists from Europe and Australia arriving in Thailand in July or August.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...mption-schemes

This article doesn't seem to agree with that sentiment.Says domestic travel open by July and then Asia travel open by 4th quarter. Granted this is ASEAN spokesman and every country can do their own thing, but it does sound like they are going to try to do things together.
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Old May 2, 2020 | 3:26 pm
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A lot of chat from some EU countries wanting to create 'covid-free' corridors of countries that allow each other's citizens in, ie Slovakia-Croatia-Germany-Austria-Poland.
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Old May 2, 2020 | 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by A4K
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...mption-schemes

This article doesn't seem to agree with that sentiment.Says domestic travel open by July and then Asia travel open by 4th quarter. Granted this is ASEAN spokesman and every country can do their own thing, but it does sound like they are going to try to do things together.
I have booked to go to Malaysia, Vietnam, and Cambodia over Christmas and New Year, and really had hopes that this trip would go ahead. That article makes it seem much less likely.
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