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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 6:37 am
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A possible Involuntary bump question

I am heading to BFS and one of the segments is showing 0 for all fare buckets. If I allow myself to be bumped, what other routings I could get on into BFS/DUB the following day. Will they let me get into the BusinessFirst from EWR to DUB as part of the compensation? Another option is for them to fly me to LHR but I don't think CO has codeshare between LHR and BFS.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by blueslip
I am heading to BFS and one of the segments is showing 0 for all fare buckets. If I allow myself to be bumped, what other routings I could get on into BFS/DUB the following day. Will they let me get into the BusinessFirst from EWR to DUB as part of the compensation? Another option is for them to fly me to LHR but I don't think CO has codeshare between LHR and BFS.

CO doesn't need a codeshare, if they're desperate enough, they can put you on another carrier that is or is not a partner.

Usually they will take this all into consideration when proposing the alternative, however. For example, if tomorrow's flight is wide open, and a hotel in EWR is $100, and they only need a couple volunteers, that's probably what they'll offer.

But if tomorrow's flight is full, and they need 10 volunteers, the offer may be something better (e.g., today).

Talk to the GA and see what they plan to do with you (and for how much). If it's acceptable, take it. If it seems chincy, counter up.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by channa
CO doesn't need a codeshare, if they're desperate enough, they can put you on another carrier that is or is not a partner.

Usually they will take this all into consideration when proposing the alternative, however. For example, if tomorrow's flight is wide open, and a hotel in EWR is $100, and they only need a couple volunteers, that's probably what they'll offer.

But if tomorrow's flight is full, and they need 10 volunteers, the offer may be something better (e.g., today).

Talk to the GA and see what they plan to do with you (and for how much). If it's acceptable, take it. If it seems chincy, counter up.
Thanks for the advice. I am trying to prep myself for any possible options I could have during the day of travel.
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Originally Posted by blueslip
I am heading to BFS and one of the segments is showing 0 for all fare buckets. If I allow myself to be bumped, what other routings I could get on into BFS/DUB the following day. Will they let me get into the BusinessFirst from EWR to DUB as part of the compensation? Another option is for them to fly me to LHR but I don't think CO has codeshare between LHR and BFS.
You could also fly into GLA and get a relatively cheap flight on FlyBe to BHD, but no codeshare. Or, if you have the time, take the train down to Stranraer and catch the ferry over to Belfast. It is beautiful run!
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I'm trying to figure out how one plans an INvoluntary bump..

Let us know what happens.
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When I took a DUB bump (2004) I got put on CO to CDG and then AF back up to DUB. They will try for SkyTeam partners first but will do what they can with what inventory is available. You can ask about the BF upgrade as part of the deal, but I would not expect one; they seem to guard that pretty heavily.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by Billiken
I'm trying to figure out how one plans an INvoluntary bump..

Let us know what happens.
The only way you can become get an INvoluntary bump is by not having a held seat and checking in at the last possible moment before the flight is restricted by the GA. If the GA can not get anyone to take a voluntary bump to seat you, then you become an INvoluntary bump.
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Originally Posted by sbm12
When I took a DUB bump (2004) I got put on CO to CDG and then AF back up to DUB. They will try for SkyTeam partners first but will do what they can with what inventory is available. You can ask about the BF upgrade as part of the deal, but I would not expect one; they seem to guard that pretty heavily.
They usually offer hotels and money, but coach seats on later flights (CO or otherwise). I don't think I've heard many reports about bumping to another flight in business for longhauls.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Billiken
I'm trying to figure out how one plans an INvoluntary bump..

Let us know what happens.
That was a mistype and there's no way for me to change the title. But the point that was raised in about involuntary bump seemed to be interesting somehow. Let's see what happens.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
When I took a DUB bump (2004) I got put on CO to CDG and then AF back up to DUB. They will try for SkyTeam partners first but will do what they can with what inventory is available. You can ask about the BF upgrade as part of the deal, but I would not expect one; they seem to guard that pretty heavily.
That's what I am hoping -- to be on a flight to CDG then to DUB if CO bump me. As of this time, I checked again with the reservation agent and again, I was told the flight is sold out in both First and Economy. Can I volunteer ahead of time when I check in for the 1st segment? I read somewhere that CO is developing a system that prompts passengers if the would like to volunteer for the flights that they are on.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by blueslip
Can I volunteer ahead of time when I check in for the 1st segment? I read somewhere that CO is developing a system that prompts passengers if the would like to volunteer for the flights that they are on.
Yes, we have a system that is currently in place for volunteering at the time of checkin IF your flight is overbooked.

It is also important that you tell the GA that you want to volunteer.

Good luck.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by sfogate
Yes, we have a system that is currently in place for volunteering at the time of checkin IF your flight is overbooked.

It is also important that you tell the GA that you want to volunteer.

Good luck.
Good to know someone confirmed what I read but could only speculate it. Where can this be accessed online? If I will be checking in say in MIA to SFO and the IAH-SFO is oversold, can I ask the agent in MIA to put me as a volunteer for the IAH-SFO flight?
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 12:40 pm
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Good to know someone confirmed what I read but could only speculate it. Where can this be accessed online? If I will be checking in say in MIA to SFO and the IAH-SFO is oversold, can I ask the agent in MIA to put me as a volunteer for the IAH-SFO flight?
Use the kiosk. It should ask you if you'd like to volunteer. The GA or check in agent can also add you to the list.

But the most important person to see is the GA for the flight that is overbooked. They control who gets the bump.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 8:24 am
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Well?

I guess if you scored it CO put you on the 11:40am non-stop to EWR as all other IAH flights were also 0ed. Remember to call up if you got the VDB and get credit for the SFO-IAH-EWR flights its appx 470 more EQMs

I guess the OP is on the flight, seems there was a SBY passenger so that means some no-shows and CO usually now will oversell only by 4

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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 3:28 pm
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A mini-MR Trip Report

A mini-MR Trip Report

I started off my flight from FLL with a bump opportunity and got comp and instant upgrade to first for the FLL-IAH segment. Also, there was an AC change from 757-200 to 767 which made me feel like I was travelling to Honolulu. I got upgraded on the IAH-SFO as well.

Nothing eventful for the SFO-IAH segment. While in SFO, my name was put on the list for Volunteers for the IAH-EWR. It was overbooked by 1 then. When I arrived IAH, a lot of seats appeared for this flight due to AC changed. The next compensation opportunity did not happen. However, when I went to the gate for boarding, a DELAYED till 5 PM departure was posted secondary to mechanical problem. I was ecstatic for the re-routing possibility, in which I was booked on the IAH-CDG-DUB segments. Alos, I was able to upgrade the outbound after CO rebooked me on B for the IAH-CDG. Althought initially they were sticking to the upgrade rules which needs to be done 24 prior, Customer Service made an exemption due to the last minute nature of my situation. I paid $100 co-pay for B booking class and ended up seating in BF. I got comp as well for the inconvenience and to offset the cost to travel between DUB and BFS. Although, it took me to speak to 3 different CO representatives, eventually the IAH manager authorized to issue a travel voucher to offset my expenses between DUB and BFS. I was offered to fly IAH-LHR on CO and LHR-BFS on BMI. I refused for CO will not credit the LHR-BFS since they are not part of the *A yet.

The CDG-DUB was on AF. It was delayed by over 2 hours due to electrical problem. We had to return to CDG after flying for at least 30 minutes on the air. After changing AC, we departed more than 2 hours from the original schedule. While at the terminal, I inquired from the AF Customer Service Center what compensation for passengers to get for such delay. No one mentioned for compensation even if mentioned to them about the EU law. I was then told to write AF to inquire for the compensation. AF ground staff were reluctant to follow this EU law. I might write AF. I might not. Anyway, I arrived at my hotel past 6PM.

I like Dublin a lot better than London. My first night dinner was a lamb shank at Templebar and a pint of Guinness draft. I have another day to spend here before resuming the multi-segmented trip back to FLL. Bump possibility are looking for two domestic flights as well. I will be fine to be getting one of them. . This would be fun when in the end, the compensation received from this trip will offset the entire tickets cost. That would be awesome.

[Reserved - update for the inbound trip section]

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