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msv May 25, 2010 4:43 am

Good morning box.
Would have liked more than 2 hrs of sleep.:(

Driving by DCA May 25, 2010 5:02 am


Originally Posted by msv (Post 14018388)
Good morning box.
Would have liked more than 2 hrs of sleep.:(

Ugh, you win :rolleyes:

Olton Hall May 25, 2010 5:07 am

Morning Box. Let the :rolleyes: begin.

unkfrank May 25, 2010 5:09 am

Morning box.

May your daily minimum :rolleyes: requirement not be met today

unkfrank May 25, 2010 5:09 am


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 14016683)
A big yawn for the win. :)

^

unkfrank May 25, 2010 5:17 am

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Mackieman May 25, 2010 5:23 am

I got up before 6AM, something that simply isn't done in my house unless you're going fishing. :mad: :rolleyes:

COFreqFlyer May 25, 2010 5:35 am

Good :rolleyes:, box.

sbm12 May 25, 2010 5:56 am


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 14017496)
Experience with US airlines teaches us the answer is "no". The a la carte model is broken when the most substantial fees are for things with the lowest cost (e.g. a change or refund fee).

I'm not so sure this is true.

1) There are two parts to the "cost" of such things. The hard costs are certainly low but the opportunity costs are not insignificant.

2) Why must the cost of an item to the consumer be directly tied to the cost of the item to the producer? Isn't the point to generate revenue based on what the market will bear, not based simply on the cost of producing the item. If it were then the fares would never be offered below cost, right?

With a Q1 CASM of $0.1144 and a trip of approximately 1000 miles IAH-FLL should be a minimum of $110 each way - to the airline, before taxes - and that's just break even on costs if we're talking about ensuring profitability. That comes out to something like $275 r/t a/i.

Phudnik May 25, 2010 6:03 am

Good morning from IAH. Waking up at 5 am was mitigated only by my inability to adjust my body clock from Eastern time.

Remarkably, I did not get lost on the way to IAH.

Mackieman May 25, 2010 6:36 am

It's not even 8AM and the :rolleyes: is already out in full force.

gbryan84 May 25, 2010 6:41 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 14018565)
With a Q1 CASM of $0.1144 and a trip of approximately 1000 miles IAH-FLL should be a minimum of $110 each way - to the airline, before taxes - and that's just break even on costs if we're talking about ensuring profitability. That comes out to something like $275 r/t a/i.

I would like to personally thank belynch for subsidizing my travel NYC-FLL. I paid $200 a/i and he made up the difference by paying $8XX a/i. So, thank you.

belynch May 25, 2010 6:54 am


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 14018709)
I would like to personally thank belynch for subsidizing my travel NYC-FLL. I paid $200 a/i and he made up the difference by paying $8XX a/i. So, thank you.

Story of my life. But actually, don't thank me, thank my employer. :-:
And, for the privilege of paying that much, I get to sit in "pretzel only" class in both directions. :rolleyes:

Canuck snagged a B6 direct out of SWF for like $300. Not too bad considering it was purchased only a few days ago.

ETA: g'day box.

Hartmann May 25, 2010 6:59 am

w00t, $$$ + points opened up for our Sheraton ANC stay this weekend. Saves me about 10k points. ^

How long do they take to credit back to your account after cancelling?

AMF in NJ May 25, 2010 7:00 am

Howdy Box. :-:

Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 14017466)
It's cheaper to drive the 1170 miles.:rolleyes:

Probably not. Last time I looked at the TCO our car it cost about $0.50 a mile to drive it. Assuming that your car has a similar TCO, then you can figure a round trip drive is $1,170. That's about par for what CO is charging to fly 3 people, assuming that you don't value your time for the 14+ hour drive (or stop for a night in a hotel). :-:

What may swing it in your favor is the cost of a rental car, assuming you were going to rent one (but not stop), but I know that I value my time enough to rent a car and not drive. :-:

Anyway, all these assumptions that I making mean it's not a cut and dried calculation to put out there. :-:


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