Probably means International First/Biz, not domestic, though it is not clear. Since regular domestic F and C don't get access to RCCs I'd be very surprised that they get in to PCs.

So the bug actually is that CO's logic for pricing awards may be off when you have a US int'l segment (non-TATL) in there.

*A Biz is I
*A First is O

US uses the O booking code for their int'l stuff, and CO is looking at that, and pushing the award into a 3-class F award, which is incorrect.

The logic needs to be a bit more complicated than that. O or I is valid at the biz award level, IF the aircraft is 2-class.

I'm finally getting them to acknowledge that there is a likely bug here.

Downside is that one agent has now ticketed me at the higher level, which makes getting this fixed even more challenging.

- Combined Rewards SB4||||SF4

Still working on it... hehe

Edit: Got it done. Agent #5 was fantastic -- she took ownership and made it happen. First, she believed me that CO could be wrong (important first step!); then she validated what I was saying; then she couldn't redo the ticket since there was no more space, so she worked with OPSC to credit the mileage overcharge back to me. She did a lot better than most of the supervisors I worked with. Mr. Hand will getting an email about her. ^

And further to that, what's the definitive answer on whether Canada - US flights are considered international or not. For example, flying YYZ-EWR, I'm pretty sure I'll get access in YYZ (if CO moves to T1 and I can use the MLL) but not sure about accessing a PC on my way home departing EWR.

Not sure it still applies, but in the past when I've been upgraded to First on EWR to YYZ flights, the class of service was listed as "International Business" and I was admitted into the PC..

My FC seats on TG (LHR-BKK-SYD) are booked in 'O' class

I just checked the ANA tool and there are no mre FC seats on any of my TG flights. So fore reference purposes, TG clearly allocates only 2 FC seats on these flights.

Privatair is usually a special case - IME, Privatair is to Swiss as COEX is to CO. However since my opinion doesn't actually count, I was looking for something explicit from CO.

Agreed, however the wording on the UAL page talked about international access for *G in any class of service and access for any member at any level flying in First. Probably bad wording, if not then OP members should get comparable access.

Keep checking your mailbox until you leave. My new CO Plat card arrived on Friday, my wife's on Sat. or Mon.

& thanks much for the effort, Scott & everyone else! We have really been looking forward to this.

Most Excellent !! THX ^

Scott - thanks for all this great info and insight. Clearly your work here is greatly appreciated!

Now I can't get out of work soon enough to sit and absorb all this. On first glance, because it is totally new, it's gonna take some time to sink in. A few drinks will help :)

Not necessarily. TG can release more but they like to show O2.

I booked a flight for two (2) and a buddy of mine booked the flight shortly thereafter for one (1) more.

VS does this too.

Right, but that's an int'l F award that should be charged at the First Class rate.

First class gets charged as business if it's a 2-class aircraft (typically you only see that on LatAm, Caribbean, and Mexico routes, in addition to domestically).

The interactive awards chart indicates that all of Russia is "Europe", including far eastern Russia (Pacific coast). Is this correct, or are destinations like UUS (served by Asiana) actually North Asia?

I read a post in the United forum that said a UA elite was able to select free premium seating on an upcoming CO flight. Since both UA & CO's websites are silent on whether CO elites will get free Economy Plus access on United flights.. will a CO elite who has a UA flight booked care to call UA and ask if you can move to E+ for free? Thank you! Perhaps free CO premium seating is now a standard *G benefit for all *G's? E+ is not a *G benefit for any other *A airlines' elites so I'm guessing it's a no for CO elites getting free E+.

Or, CO Insider can you comment? Seems to me it's an easy answer, YES or NO.

Scott - the lounge charts shows only a +1 next to the blue dot (for PC members) at UA RCC and US clubs. Looks that the table needs updated with a +2 next to the blue dot.

Also - your wording above is a little different than what is on the website. The wedsite kind of implies that a PC member needs to be traveling on a *A flight to access either the UA RCC or US club. You imply that RCC and US clubs are available to PC members regardless of who they are flying or if flying at all.

This depends on the club operator airline's own definition of International. UA absolutely considers Mexico and Canada as Intl in terms of *G RCC access for USA-airline-program (UA, US and now CO) *G members. I've gotten into RCCs many times from my UA *G (1P and then 1K) credentials when flying to Mexico and Canada. US Airways Clubs do NOT consider it international.

Note that UA has a silly stupid overcomplicated "drink chit" system (paid bar). Literally hundreds if not thousands of posts about it on the UA board. UA's rules are that *G pax on international "transoceanic" flights get drink chits only at the "transoceanic gateway". UA's definition of "transoceanic" includes USA to South America, which crosses part of the Caribbean, but I don't think it includes Caribbean destinations themselves. So no drink chits if flying to YYZ or SJD even though I've gotten in on those trips. Also no drink chits if the lounge dragons are confused or convinced wrongly that they're right about the rules.:rolleyes:

My son and I (he was dirt in any program - now *S from getting CO Silver) lounge-hopped between the combined *A lounge and the BD lounge earlier this year based on my UA 1K *G credentials, when flying BD. I haven't flown a *A carrier through CDG, but I've lounge-hopped elsewhere. When UA was in LHR T3, on more than one occasion I hit the AC/SK London Lounge, the SQ Lounge, and the RCC.

Maybe on contract lounges they can do that, but the *A lounge rules explicitly say that your guest must be flying on a *A carrier from that airport that day, but does not have to be on the same flight.

See my comments above to milepig. I'm hoping that CO goes with the UA definition of International rather than the US definition.

Not gonna happen. Definitely bad wording, which is not surprising since it came from .bomb. Clearly the intent is "USA-based *A airline FF programs *G members in Y may only access *G lounges operated by USA-based *A airlines when traveling on an international itinerary."

I don't know why they don't come right out and put it that way.

Likewise in premium cabins on purely domestic itineraries: If you're flying BusinessFirst domestic on a CO Int config, or UA F on a 2-cabin, or UA C or F cabins on a UA 3-cabin 777/767/747, or US F or on intl-config on a domestic-only leg Envoy (if they have any intl-config hub-hub at US), you're not getting into any RCC, PC, or USAC free based on CO, UA, or US-issued Star Gold status. Not if your itinerary is purely domestic.

People who fly those routes and want lounge access are exactly the people whom UA, US, and CO want to sell club memberships. That's why they carved out an exemption in the *A lounge rules for the USA-based airlines.

Your CO-issued *G status (or UA or US) will get you into any *A lounge in the USA operated by any other *A carrier, as long as you have airside access to their club location if it's airside, and as long as you are flying out of that airport on any *A carrier.

If you want domestic USA-based-airline *A club access when flying purely domestic, and don't want to buy a PC/RCC/USAC membership, then you need to earn *G on one of the non-USA-based *A airlines. Which takes away some of the benefits you'd get only as a "native" elite on CO (or US or UA).