Citicards 60 day/ one application policy
#346
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 242
things are always changing , so what's the latest.
I applied for the Citi Professional Mastercard 60 days ago. I have not applied for any other Citi cards for 5 months.
I'd like to apply for a Citi AAdvantage personal card asap.
the Professional card shows up on the Citi Card web site under both , general consumer and business sections. Since this next application will be for a personal card , should I go for it , or waite for the 90th day?
www.citicards.com
I applied for the Citi Professional Mastercard 60 days ago. I have not applied for any other Citi cards for 5 months.
I'd like to apply for a Citi AAdvantage personal card asap.
the Professional card shows up on the Citi Card web site under both , general consumer and business sections. Since this next application will be for a personal card , should I go for it , or waite for the 90th day?
www.citicards.com
Enjoy your miles, just make sure to spend $750 in 4 months...
#347
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DTW
Programs: Dirt Status w/ All
Posts: 5,045
The Professional is a hybrid of a Personal and Business, but I think it falls in the personal "bucket". When I got the personal Platinum Amex last month they let me move credit limits from my Professional, but not from my Business cards.
This might be a case where you want to call and ask first and not waste the inquiry.
For anyone looking for some bonus TYPs, here are a couple offers with 15K bonus points on first purchase that don't show up on the citi main site any more, but still seem active:
Professional
Business W/ TYN
This might be a case where you want to call and ask first and not waste the inquiry.
For anyone looking for some bonus TYPs, here are a couple offers with 15K bonus points on first purchase that don't show up on the citi main site any more, but still seem active:
Professional
Business W/ TYN
#349
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
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- You need to log into your Citicards account.
- Then select the card that you want to cancel (so that you're viewing information such as Current Activity for that card only, not the summary of all your accounts, and not any other card).
- With the card you want to cancel selected, go to the Help & Contact Us menu at the top of the page and select Email Customer Service.
- Click on Send A New Message.
- For Topic, select Account - Other.
- For subject, something like "please cancel Amex card ending in 0000".
- Make sure your email address is correct (it should be filled in automatically).
- In the Message, just say something like "Please cancel my Amex card ending in 0000. Thank you."
- Click Send Message.
- You may not get any response, but within a business day or two when you go back to your summary of accounts you will see the red "this card has been closed" message for the card in quesiton.
- If they do reply to you, they will not exactly reply by email. They'll reply in your online message center, and at most send you an email saying that you have a new message in your online message center.
#350
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,972
Regarding the Citi AA Business card, I understand that the wait is 90 days; however, I recently had an odd thing occur. I cancelled my business card and re-applied a few days later. I received an e-mail stating that I could not have two business card accounts, so my new account application was denied. My guess is that Citi's system did not update indicating that my first account was closed. As such, I waited a week and re-applied. This time I received the "no application in 90 day" e-mail. Ant thoughts on how long I should now wait? I'm thinking about sitting out for another 90 days, unless someone has other thoughts.
#351
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Modesto, CA (90 miles from any real airport)
Programs: SPG Plat (3.2MM LT), Hilton Gold, AA LT Plat (3.2MM), Hertz 5*, US Mint MVP
Posts: 638
Regarding the Citi AA Business card, I understand that the wait is 90 days; however, I recently had an odd thing occur. I cancelled my business card and re-applied a few days later. I received an e-mail stating that I could not have two business card accounts, so my new account application was denied. My guess is that Citi's system did not update indicating that my first account was closed. As such, I waited a week and re-applied. This time I received the "no application in 90 day" e-mail. Ant thoughts on how long I should now wait? I'm thinking about sitting out for another 90 days, unless someone has other thoughts.
Jim
#352
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DTW
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Posts: 5,045
Regarding canceling - calling may be more profitable. I called to cancel a Citi Business card a few weeks ago and they offered me a $75 statement credit to keep it open. There is no annual fee, so a free $75 is good. ^
#353
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: CO, UA, AA, WN, DL Gold
Posts: 2,981
I thought you could only cancel personal cards on line?
#354
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, D.C.
Programs: AA PLT (MM), UA 1K, Marriott Ti, IHG Diamond
Posts: 929
The automated citibank system is sometimes more harsh when it comes to the 60 or 90 day rule... Call up the bankcard center (application inquiry number) and ask them to combine your applications or something... They will see that the first application didn't go through because it thought (erroneously) that you still had an open citi business card... Worth a shot!
#355
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,972
Anytime you apply for a card whether its a personal or business card you are limited to 1 bus card application every 90 days, and 2 personal cards every 60 days (some report only 1 card every 60 days). It does not matter if the application was acepted or declined, the clock starts with each application. You must now wait 90 days for the date your rejected application was submitted.
Jim
Jim
#356
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: PBI/FLL
Programs: AAdvantage 300k Lifetime Miles, WN Rapid Rewards
Posts: 111
Here are all the rules as I understand them from reading all the threads - for the sake of clarification for both myself and everyone else on the board, here's what I have gathered:
() No more than 1 app. for Citi Personal or Amex every 60 days (regardless of approval)
() No more than 1 app. for Citi Business MC every 90 days (regardless of approval)
() No more than 5 total Citi cards active at one time (and it's a bad idea to cancel a card before your miles show up at AA)...Edit: There seem to be people who are successfully able to hold 6 Citi cards at one time.
() No more than 6 Citi hard pulls *per credit reporting agency* every 6 months (7+ in 6 months is high-risk...Edit: On the same report *only*, plus other banks *do* count *if* they report to the same agency that Citi does.)
So here is my thinking. If I apply for all 3 cards every 97 days, I won't run into any problems with the first two rules. If I cancel at least 1 of the 3 cards (although preferably all 3; by hitting that $750 within the first billing cycle by prepaying things I would have bought anyway, or buying those $1 coins from the US Mint) before I apply for the next 3, I won't have more than 5 Citi cards out at a time, so I won't run into any problems with the third rule. (I don't have any other Citi cards nor do I plan to apply for any other Citi cards besides the 3 AA ones.) And if I do my 3 applications every 97 days as opposed to every <90 days, in any given 6 month period, I'll only have 3 hard pulls from Citi show up on my credit report, so I won't end up in the "high risk" category when I apply -- although I'm aware the total number of inquiries shows up on my credit report, and might have a small impact on my credit score; my score is otherwise solid and I'm not too worried.
Oh, and on my last applications (October 2008), they hard-pulled Equifax only. So Experian and Transunion hard-pulls from other banks don't count towards the limits....I didn't have any though.
If I made an incorrect assumption or if I'm missing something please let me know!
() No more than 1 app. for Citi Personal or Amex every 60 days (regardless of approval)
() No more than 1 app. for Citi Business MC every 90 days (regardless of approval)
() No more than 5 total Citi cards active at one time (and it's a bad idea to cancel a card before your miles show up at AA)...Edit: There seem to be people who are successfully able to hold 6 Citi cards at one time.
() No more than 6 Citi hard pulls *per credit reporting agency* every 6 months (7+ in 6 months is high-risk...Edit: On the same report *only*, plus other banks *do* count *if* they report to the same agency that Citi does.)
So here is my thinking. If I apply for all 3 cards every 97 days, I won't run into any problems with the first two rules. If I cancel at least 1 of the 3 cards (although preferably all 3; by hitting that $750 within the first billing cycle by prepaying things I would have bought anyway, or buying those $1 coins from the US Mint) before I apply for the next 3, I won't have more than 5 Citi cards out at a time, so I won't run into any problems with the third rule. (I don't have any other Citi cards nor do I plan to apply for any other Citi cards besides the 3 AA ones.) And if I do my 3 applications every 97 days as opposed to every <90 days, in any given 6 month period, I'll only have 3 hard pulls from Citi show up on my credit report, so I won't end up in the "high risk" category when I apply -- although I'm aware the total number of inquiries shows up on my credit report, and might have a small impact on my credit score; my score is otherwise solid and I'm not too worried.
Oh, and on my last applications (October 2008), they hard-pulled Equifax only. So Experian and Transunion hard-pulls from other banks don't count towards the limits....I didn't have any though.
If I made an incorrect assumption or if I'm missing something please let me know!
Last edited by mrosson; Nov 5, 2008 at 3:05 pm Reason: editing the rules
#357
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Modesto, CA (90 miles from any real airport)
Programs: SPG Plat (3.2MM LT), Hilton Gold, AA LT Plat (3.2MM), Hertz 5*, US Mint MVP
Posts: 638
Mrs. CandymanJim and I never have any issues each getting 2 personal cards every 60 days, EACH. My excel spreadsheet has not let me down yet, in fact we are at 62 now for our next cards, but will give it a couple more days.
Jim
Jim
#359
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DTW
Programs: Dirt Status w/ All
Posts: 5,045
Platinum Select MC
Platinum Amex
Professional MC
Business MC
Business MC with TYN
Associated Bank Visa Platinum (issued by Citi)
The Associated is a personal card but falls in a different area than the others, so five "true Citi" cards might be true. The Associated is really only useful for 0% balance transfers.
#360
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Manchester,UK and NYC
Programs: One Pass, BAEC, AA
Posts: 708
No more than 6 Citi hard pulls every 6 months (7+ in 6 months is high-risk
As far as I am aware - it is up to 7 inquiries in a 6 month period from ANY bank - not just CITI - so you need to see which agency Citi is pulling for you (used to be TU for me, but since June is Experian) - then you need to see what the other banks are pulling - unfortunately for me it seems Chase, BofA, Amex and US Bank all pull Experian - so this has made me slow down my churns with the other banks, as I prefer to get my full allotment of AA cards from Citi.
As far as I am aware - it is up to 7 inquiries in a 6 month period from ANY bank - not just CITI - so you need to see which agency Citi is pulling for you (used to be TU for me, but since June is Experian) - then you need to see what the other banks are pulling - unfortunately for me it seems Chase, BofA, Amex and US Bank all pull Experian - so this has made me slow down my churns with the other banks, as I prefer to get my full allotment of AA cards from Citi.