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Palal Feb 26, 2023 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by IluvSQ (Post 35043017)
I may be mistaken ( or outdated info), but I thought PAL was the only legacy airline that did NOT offer lie-flat
business class seats.

Their A350s offer very comfy lie-flat seats.

travelinmanS Feb 27, 2023 1:30 am


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 35042845)
So is Philippine Airlines. They're coming up as the cheapest business class option. But the flight times suck, at 32 hours one way.

I'm looking at June flights PVG-LAX round trip, and Philippines is at $3000. Next is BR at more than double that through TPE.

How does it look if you buy the nonstop HKG or TPE to LAX and then a separate ticket to get into the mainland? This is what I did this past week for my Japan trip. I booked PVG-HKG RT and then a separate HKG-TYO RT. The insane $3000 RT economy class fares for PVG-NRT that fly 2 days a week are really getting tiring. Hope this ends soon.

YariGuy Feb 27, 2023 2:52 am


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 35045194)
How does it look if you buy the nonstop HKG or TPE to LAX and then a separate ticket to get into the mainland? This is what I did this past week for my Japan trip. I booked PVG-HKG RT and then a separate HKG-TYO RT. The insane $3000 RT economy class fares for PVG-NRT that fly 2 days a week are really getting tiring. Hope this ends soon.

Good idea, just looked it up, and this saves money. TPE-LAX round trip is $2000 less than including PVG.

Palal Feb 27, 2023 3:53 am


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 35045281)
Good idea, just looked it up, and this saves money. TPE-LAX round trip is $2000 less than including PVG.

If you have time, buy [mainland] to SZX or ZUH - cross by land or ferry and fly out of HKG. That should save you even more.

travelinmanS Feb 27, 2023 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by Palal (Post 35045365)
If you have time, buy [mainland] to SZX or ZUH - cross by land or ferry and fly out of HKG. That should save you even more.

I did this a few weeks ago and would definitely recommend paying the extra $50-$100 each way to fly direct to HKG. Getting from SZX to HKG is neither fun nor fast.

EDWARD12321 Feb 27, 2023 10:11 pm

when will ORD be included in non-stop trips?!

YariGuy Feb 28, 2023 1:37 am


Originally Posted by Philipp Morgenstern (Post 35009893)
No Moscow?. Pre covid, in northern summer the flights were twice a day, 11x PVG and 3x Xian. Los Angeles, San Francisco are also two big cities missing.

Moscow is back - 3X weekly, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. MU591/592

YariGuy Feb 28, 2023 1:39 am

In addition to Moscow, MU is adding flights to the following destinations:

PVG - Siem Reap (3X weekly)
PVG - Yangon (3X weekly)
PVG - Ho Chi Minh (3X weekly)
PVG - Jakarta (3X weekly)

Source: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Gdh8fZEmyA1uL2zMm4KwAw

Source hints that more flights will be added starting March 26th.

narvik Feb 28, 2023 10:47 am


Originally Posted by EDWARD12321 (Post 35047936)
when will ORD be included in non-stop trips?!

Was only recently scheduled by United to start in late March 2023, but this is now pushed back to October 2023.

YariGuy Feb 28, 2023 6:05 pm

Looks like China Eastern Airlines filed a document on Feb 27 stating their wish to resume the PVG-LAX flight. This would be for the period March 26-October 28, 2023. The flight would only be once / week, however (PVG-LAX on Saturday, LAX-PVG on Sunday).

Source: regulations.gov

Philipp Morgenstern Feb 28, 2023 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 35050513)
Looks like China Eastern Airlines filed a document on Feb 27 stating their wish to resume the PVG-LAX flight. This would be for the period March 26-October 28, 2023. The flight would only be once / week, however (PVG-LAX on Saturday, LAX-PVG on Sunday).

Source: regulations.gov

Shocking there is not even 1 daily flight between LAX and PVG, when pre covid there used to be 5.

moondog Feb 28, 2023 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by Philipp Morgenstern (Post 35050555)
Shocking there is not even 1 daily flight between LAX and PVG, when pre covid there used to be 5.

AA, DL, MU, UA = 4

Was one of them double daily?

Philipp Morgenstern Feb 28, 2023 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 35050579)
AA, DL, MU, UA = 4

Was one of them double daily?

MU was 2 daily

boat stuck Mar 6, 2023 3:16 pm

Does any one know if Air China will tag bags through to Asiana if it's two separate reservations, both made via UA miles?

For some reason (perhaps to try to justify its outrageous redemption rates for UA858?) UA refuses to issue through award tickets for Mainland-ICN/TYO/TPE-US. So I had to book Mainland-ICN and ICN-US on two PNRs.

kb1992 Mar 7, 2023 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by boat stuck (Post 35066527)
Does any one know if Air China will tag bags through to Asiana if it's two separate reservations, both made via UA miles?

For some reason (perhaps to try to justify its outrageous redemption rates for UA858?) UA refuses to issue through award tickets for Mainland-ICN/TYO/TPE-US. So I had to book Mainland-ICN and ICN-US on two PNRs.

UA has been nasty with selling tickets for an itinerary involving China. :td:

I have the same issue with award travel. Although both SFO-TPE and TPE-PVG are available for mileage redemption, UA refuses to sell them as a single ticket.

A friend consulted me about high fares of UA 858 PVG-SFO. I suggested that buy 2 separate tickets PVG-ICN (OZ) then ICN-SFO (UA). The layover is 2 hours which should be enough.

I am also curious if OZ at PVG counter would allow bags tagged all the way to SFO.


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