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US-CN Direct flights Back to Non-Stop

Old Jan 23, 23, 8:57 am
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US-CN Direct flights Back to Non-Stop

According to the website of Chinese Civil Aviation Administration, the following flights are back non-stop:
AA127 DFW-PVG
AA128 PVG-DFW
DL287 SEA-PVG
DL288 PVG-SEA
DL283 DTW-PVG
DL284 PVG-DTW
Note that flight duration is longer, due to not being able to enter Russia airspace, and DTW->PVG will be taking 16h50m
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Old Jan 23, 23, 1:47 pm
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I know United is supposedly eliminating the ICN stops this weekend, but aren't AA and DL waiting until March?
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Old Jan 23, 23, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
I know United is supposedly eliminating the ICN stops this weekend, but aren't AA and DL waiting until March?
Yes, and here's the scheduleL283 March 3, DL284 March 5 Cancelled
March 5-March 22: DL283 DTW-PVG 13 22:55(23:55 DST)-04:45(+2)
March 8-March 25: DL284 PVG-DTW 36 09:50-10:55 (11:55 DST)
Starting from March 25th: DL389 DTW-PVG 1356 12:10-14:45(+1)
Starting from March 26: DL388 PVG-DTW 2467 16:45-18:20

March 3-March 24: DL287 SEA-PVG 25 10:05(11:15 DST)-16:00(+1)
March 5th - March 26th: DL288 PVG-SEA 47 13:50-09:10 (10:10 DST)
Starting from March 26: DL281 SEA-PVG 247 11:30-15:15(+1)
Starting from March 27th: DL282 PVG-SEA 135 17:30-13:35

March 18-23: AA127 DFW-PVG 1246 11:00-15:55(+1)
March 19-March 24: AA128 PVG-DFW 2357 18:20-19:05
Starting from March 27: AA127 DFW-PVG 1246 09:55-14:50(+1)
Starting from March 28: AA128 PVG-DFW 2357 17:00-17:45
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Old Jan 28, 23, 4:19 pm
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We need more flights!
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Old Feb 8, 23, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by djxj977988
We need more flights!
Yes... They are still way too expensive compared to pre-covid
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Old Feb 9, 23, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by NickJeff
Yes... They are still way too expensive compared to pre-covid
It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if its a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
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Old Feb 9, 23, 6:27 pm
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It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if its a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
I saw an interview transcript from one of China Eastern's operations people last month. The gist of it was that their base airports are all capacity constrained (mostly staffing related), so they are forced to pick and choose which flights to add and when. I'm guessing the trunk routes are substantially more profitable than SE Asia.
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Old Feb 9, 23, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
I saw an interview transcript from one of China Eastern's operations people last month. The gist of it was that their base airports are all capacity constrained (mostly staffing related), so they are forced to pick and choose which flights to add and when. I'm guessing the trunk routes are substantially more profitable than SE Asia.
That said, MU announced some new flights yesterday. Some highlights:

- Daily flight from PVG to TSA (Taipei)
- 4 flights per day PVG to Macau (not sure how many of these are new)
- Additional daily flight PVG - HKG (for a total of 3 daily)
- 3X per week flight PVG - MLE (Maldives)
- 3X per week PVG - Dubai
- 2X per week PVG - Phnom Penh
- Daily flight PVG - Manila (time sucks though)
- Daily flight PVG - SIN (not sure if it's daily or 5X / week, source is confusing)

Notably, no additions to US flights yet, but I see this as a good sign.

Also, source mentions revival of catering capabilities in New York, Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Melbourne, Frankfurt, Rome, Budapest, Dubai so food is set to improve.

Source: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VG5o4Tqjy1f1UqfAmD0XPQ
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Old Feb 9, 23, 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if its a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
I just checked Google flights and it's showing MU flying from PVG to SIN daily:

https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=hk&curr=HKD
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Old Feb 10, 23, 12:08 am
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Originally Posted by tauphi
I just checked Google flights and it's showing MU flying from PVG to SIN daily:

https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=hk&curr=HKD
From your link it looks like daily is starting on the 23rd of this month. Unfortunately I needed it for this week, when the only option in the whole week was yesterday.

Hopefully what Google says will really happen.
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Old Feb 10, 23, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by YariGuy
That said, MU announced some new flights yesterday. Some highlights:

- Daily flight from PVG to TSA (Taipei)
That's strange - I would have expected SHA-TSA.
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Old Feb 10, 23, 1:35 am
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That's strange - I would have expected SHA-TSA.
SHA isnt doing any international. Who knows when that will change. Hopefully soon as SHA-HND saves me about an hour on both ends of the trip.
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Old Feb 10, 23, 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
SHA isnt doing any international. Who knows when that will change. Hopefully soon as SHA-HND saves me about an hour on both ends of the trip.
Yes, in pre-Covid times I always tried to travel the GMP-TSA-SHA-HND airports rather than ICN-TPE-PVG-NRT.
I will be doing TSA-GMP next week, and as you say, it saves about an hour at each end.
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Old Feb 10, 23, 7:31 am
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I flew HND-TSA in December, and TSA-PVG in January. And I'm booked to fly PVG-TSA next week.

Seems like we all know why SHA airport is not available yet. Same reason why PCR tests are still required flying into China.

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Old Feb 10, 23, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by YariGuy
I flew HND-TSA in December, and TSA-PVG in January. And I'm booked to fly PVG-TSA next week.

Seems like we all know why SHA r airport is not available yet. Same reason why PCR tests are still required flying into said cities.
I'm guessing it has something to do with the appeal (to relevant administrators) of kicking the can down the road, but also bear in mind that there is the general theme that Chinese are proud of enormous modern buildings, regardless of how functionally depraved they might be (you are the most egregious offender, SZX, but PVG might be able to one-up you by the time they finish building it).
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