US-CN Direct flights Back to Non-Stop
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 27
US-CN Direct flights Back to Non-Stop
According to the website of Chinese Civil Aviation Administration, the following flights are back non-stop:
AA127 DFW-PVG
AA128 PVG-DFW
DL287 SEA-PVG
DL288 PVG-SEA
DL283 DTW-PVG
DL284 PVG-DTW
Note that flight duration is longer, due to not being able to enter Russia airspace, and DTW->PVG will be taking 16h50m
AA127 DFW-PVG
AA128 PVG-DFW
DL287 SEA-PVG
DL288 PVG-SEA
DL283 DTW-PVG
DL284 PVG-DTW
Note that flight duration is longer, due to not being able to enter Russia airspace, and DTW->PVG will be taking 16h50m
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 27

March 5-March 22: DL283 DTW-PVG 13 22:55(23:55 DST)-04:45(+2)
March 8-March 25: DL284 PVG-DTW 36 09:50-10:55 (11:55 DST)
Starting from March 25th: DL389 DTW-PVG 1356 12:10-14:45(+1)
Starting from March 26: DL388 PVG-DTW 2467 16:45-18:20
March 3-March 24: DL287 SEA-PVG 25 10:05(11:15 DST)-16:00(+1)
March 5th - March 26th: DL288 PVG-SEA 47 13:50-09:10 (10:10 DST)
Starting from March 26: DL281 SEA-PVG 247 11:30-15:15(+1)
Starting from March 27th: DL282 PVG-SEA 135 17:30-13:35
March 18-23: AA127 DFW-PVG 1246 11:00-15:55(+1)
March 19-March 24: AA128 PVG-DFW 2357 18:20-19:05
Starting from March 27: AA127 DFW-PVG 1246 09:55-14:50(+1)
Starting from March 28: AA128 PVG-DFW 2357 17:00-17:45
#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,654
It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if it’s a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
#7
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 40,085
It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if it’s a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
#8
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: PVG
Programs: MU Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 700
I saw an interview transcript from one of China Eastern's operations people last month. The gist of it was that their base airports are all capacity constrained (mostly staffing related), so they are forced to pick and choose which flights to add and when. I'm guessing the trunk routes are substantially more profitable than SE Asia.
- Daily flight from PVG to TSA (Taipei)
- 4 flights per day PVG to Macau (not sure how many of these are new)
- Additional daily flight PVG - HKG (for a total of 3 daily)
- 3X per week flight PVG - MLE (Maldives)
- 3X per week PVG - Dubai
- 2X per week PVG - Phnom Penh
- Daily flight PVG - Manila (time sucks though)
- Daily flight PVG - SIN (not sure if it's daily or 5X / week, source is confusing)
Notably, no additions to US flights yet, but I see this as a good sign.
Also, source mentions revival of catering capabilities in New York, Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, Melbourne, Frankfurt, Rome, Budapest, Dubai so food is set to improve.
Source: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/VG5o4Tqjy1f1UqfAmD0XPQ
#9
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,225
It seems China is slow walking the introduction of more international flights. MU flies PVG-SIN once a week! Ridiculous. Not sure if it’s a resources issue or intentionally hindering the complete opening up, but it makes international business travel a real pain for someone living on the mainland like myself.
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=hk&curr=HKD
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,654
I just checked Google flights and it's showing MU flying from PVG to SIN daily:
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=hk&curr=HKD
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=hk&curr=HKD
Hopefully what Google says will really happen.
#11
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,062
#13
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,062
I will be doing TSA-GMP next week, and as you say, it saves about an hour at each end.
#14
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: PVG
Programs: MU Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 700
I flew HND-TSA in December, and TSA-PVG in January. And I'm booked to fly PVG-TSA next week.
Seems like we all know why SHA airport is not available yet. Same reason why PCR tests are still required flying into China.
Seems like we all know why SHA airport is not available yet. Same reason why PCR tests are still required flying into China.
Last edited by YariGuy; Feb 10, 23 at 7:26 pm Reason: Fix typo
#15
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 40,085
I'm guessing it has something to do with the appeal (to relevant administrators) of kicking the can down the road, but also bear in mind that there is the general theme that Chinese are proud of enormous modern buildings, regardless of how functionally depraved they might be (you are the most egregious offender, SZX, but PVG might be able to one-up you by the time they finish building it).