Shanghai ground transportation thread
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If taking taxi upon arrival:
Is there a set rate from PVG to Jing An? If not a set rate, is it negotiated or metered? I'm guessing there's a 0% chance the taxi will accept credit card so I need to plan to get cash upon arrival from an ATM or use a currency exchange upon arrival at the airport?
Besides the maglev being a super fast train is there anything all that special about taking it versus just getting in a taxi and getting into Shanghai for a first time visitor?
Is there a set rate from PVG to Jing An? If not a set rate, is it negotiated or metered? I'm guessing there's a 0% chance the taxi will accept credit card so I need to plan to get cash upon arrival from an ATM or use a currency exchange upon arrival at the airport?
Besides the maglev being a super fast train is there anything all that special about taking it versus just getting in a taxi and getting into Shanghai for a first time visitor?
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If taking taxi upon arrival:
Is there a set rate from PVG to Jing An? If not a set rate, is it negotiated or metered? I'm guessing there's a 0% chance the taxi will accept credit card so I need to plan to get cash upon arrival from an ATM or use a currency exchange upon arrival at the airport?
Besides the maglev being a super fast train is there anything all that special about taking it versus just getting in a taxi and getting into Shanghai for a first time visitor?
Is there a set rate from PVG to Jing An? If not a set rate, is it negotiated or metered? I'm guessing there's a 0% chance the taxi will accept credit card so I need to plan to get cash upon arrival from an ATM or use a currency exchange upon arrival at the airport?
Besides the maglev being a super fast train is there anything all that special about taking it versus just getting in a taxi and getting into Shanghai for a first time visitor?
There are no set rates for taxis.
The #2 bus actually goes directly to your Jing'an Temple, but taxi is faster because you won't have to wait for the bus (leaves once every 20 minutes).
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I can get from my apartment on line 1 to Pudong Airport in 50 minutes with the subway to Maglev combo if I end up getting to Longyang Road station right as the maglev is boarding. Nothing is faster than this and I even have to transfer at people's square. Taxi drivers are falling asleep half of the time I take a taxi so I try to avoid them. I know Moondog isn't a fan of my maglev shuffle routine but in 10 years of doing it I've never once missed a flight and I only spend 44RMB each time! If you're going to end up anywhere near a subway station in town then the Maglev to subway is my recommendation every time.
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I can get from my apartment on line 1 to Pudong Airport in 50 minutes with the subway to Maglev combo if I end up getting to Longyang Road station right as the maglev is boarding. Nothing is faster than this and I even have to transfer at people's square. Taxi drivers are falling asleep half of the time I take a taxi so I try to avoid them. I know Moondog isn't a fan of my maglev shuffle routine but in 10 years of doing it I've never once missed a flight and I only spend 44RMB each time! If you're going to end up anywhere near a subway station in town then the Maglev to subway is my recommendation every time.
These days, I pony up for a taxi outbound, and do the #2 bus inbound (I hang out at Crocus until the traffic dies down).
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I can get from my apartment on line 1 to Pudong Airport in 50 minutes with the subway to Maglev combo if I end up getting to Longyang Road station right as the maglev is boarding. Nothing is faster than this and I even have to transfer at people's square. Taxi drivers are falling asleep half of the time I take a taxi so I try to avoid them. I know Moondog isn't a fan of my maglev shuffle routine but in 10 years of doing it I've never once missed a flight and I only spend 44RMB each time! If you're going to end up anywhere near a subway station in town then the Maglev to subway is my recommendation every time.
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I live in Xujiahui at present, and my first preference is to avoid PVG, but when PVG is the only viable option, I take a taxi on the way there. While this costs me an extra $30 over other options, I don't need to deal with Line 2 (very crowded) or getting to Line 2.
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To be honest, I never found Line 2 as crowded as Line 9 is in the morning heading to the High Tech Park. I started taking the bus rather than the metro.
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This is a good solution, I arrange a black car the night before so I know I'll get a (relatively new and safe) car with a pleasant driver. Same price as the taxi and no meter involved.
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A Black car? These things still exist? I would have thought that they all joined didi by now.
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Back on the xujiahui as origin topic, it just occurred to me that taking line 11 to Disney or the stop just before Disney might be a decent option. I've really found any practical uses for line 11 until recently.
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I want to offer some more general thoughts that pertain to the current Shanghai metro system:
1. After I mentioned that Line 11 has been almost completely useless to me until recently (now it is only 90% useless because at least it can get me to Jiangsu Rd, where a friend of mine works), I realized that some of the newer lines are even more useless (for me)
https://exploreshanghai.com/metro/#
-17
-5
-6
-8 I have taken 8 one or two stops a few times, though
-3
2. Lines that I like and/or need
-10 I live and work on Line 10 because it is much more civilized than Line 2, and passes through a lot of useful places
-13 I like 13 because I can almost always get a seat, and it connects my office to Nanjing West as well as Hanzhong Road (we have clients there); it also hits some decent areas after it turns west at Hanzhong Road
-12 Not quite as useful as 13 because it turns east at Hanzhong Road, but it's still a good north/south option through town, and the stations seem to spaced a little further apart than 13's
-1 While I've never been a fan of 1, I appreciate it a little more now because it allows me to go both east, and north from Xujiahui/Hengshan Road, and passes by Shaanxi South Road as well as Huangpi South Road (north end of XTD)
3. Lines that I dislike, but sometimes use out of necessity
-2 Most people say, probably correctly, that 2 is the most important line in the network. While I can tolerate it for 2-3 station runs, I dislike the crowds, and the downtown stations are not conveniently placed (e.g. if you want to go Plaza 66 or the Portman, you're looking at 800-1000 meter walks)
-7 Line 7 barely connects to lines 1 and 2, and does not connect with line 10, in spite of the fact that they cross each other. It is also quite crowded (not sure why)
-9 I'm lukewarm about 9. It is crowded because many people live in Songjiang these days, and I get this. It does the same cross town job as 2 and 10...just further south. Like 10 and 1, it can also get me from my home to XTD (Madang Road in this case)
4. Line 14 (2020 launch planned)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_14_(Shanghai_Metro)
-Line 14 is yet another east/west line, intended to relieve Line 2
-within downtown, it will provide a north/south link between Wuding Road (bar area), Jing'an Temple, and Huangpi South Road (XTD)
-it is expected to have extremely high ridership levels, and I've heard through the grapevine that 2 minute spacing has been planned
5. Transfer stations
a) good
-Century Avenue -- three lines connect there, and the transfer process is seamless
-XTD
-Shaanxi South, but only between 10 and 12; 1 is a bit of a hike
-I'm guessing there are some other good ones, but as intimated above, I lack personal experience wrt a large percentage of the network
b) bad
-People's Square -- ~20 exits!
-Xujiahui
-Nanjing West Road -- remarkably bad because you need to exit the station in order to transfer, and 12 to 13 entails a really long walk
-Nanjing East Road -- not as bad as the others on this list, but definitely not good
-any station that facilitates transfers to the above ground portions of lines 3/4
-Jing'an Temple -- 2 and 7 are pretty far apart there
-Changshu Road -- likewise 1 and 7 are far apart there
1. After I mentioned that Line 11 has been almost completely useless to me until recently (now it is only 90% useless because at least it can get me to Jiangsu Rd, where a friend of mine works), I realized that some of the newer lines are even more useless (for me)
https://exploreshanghai.com/metro/#
-17
-5
-6
-8 I have taken 8 one or two stops a few times, though
-3
2. Lines that I like and/or need
-10 I live and work on Line 10 because it is much more civilized than Line 2, and passes through a lot of useful places
-13 I like 13 because I can almost always get a seat, and it connects my office to Nanjing West as well as Hanzhong Road (we have clients there); it also hits some decent areas after it turns west at Hanzhong Road
-12 Not quite as useful as 13 because it turns east at Hanzhong Road, but it's still a good north/south option through town, and the stations seem to spaced a little further apart than 13's
-1 While I've never been a fan of 1, I appreciate it a little more now because it allows me to go both east, and north from Xujiahui/Hengshan Road, and passes by Shaanxi South Road as well as Huangpi South Road (north end of XTD)
3. Lines that I dislike, but sometimes use out of necessity
-2 Most people say, probably correctly, that 2 is the most important line in the network. While I can tolerate it for 2-3 station runs, I dislike the crowds, and the downtown stations are not conveniently placed (e.g. if you want to go Plaza 66 or the Portman, you're looking at 800-1000 meter walks)
-7 Line 7 barely connects to lines 1 and 2, and does not connect with line 10, in spite of the fact that they cross each other. It is also quite crowded (not sure why)
-9 I'm lukewarm about 9. It is crowded because many people live in Songjiang these days, and I get this. It does the same cross town job as 2 and 10...just further south. Like 10 and 1, it can also get me from my home to XTD (Madang Road in this case)
4. Line 14 (2020 launch planned)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_14_(Shanghai_Metro)
-Line 14 is yet another east/west line, intended to relieve Line 2
-within downtown, it will provide a north/south link between Wuding Road (bar area), Jing'an Temple, and Huangpi South Road (XTD)
-it is expected to have extremely high ridership levels, and I've heard through the grapevine that 2 minute spacing has been planned
5. Transfer stations
a) good
-Century Avenue -- three lines connect there, and the transfer process is seamless
-XTD
-Shaanxi South, but only between 10 and 12; 1 is a bit of a hike
-I'm guessing there are some other good ones, but as intimated above, I lack personal experience wrt a large percentage of the network
b) bad
-People's Square -- ~20 exits!
-Xujiahui
-Nanjing West Road -- remarkably bad because you need to exit the station in order to transfer, and 12 to 13 entails a really long walk
-Nanjing East Road -- not as bad as the others on this list, but definitely not good
-any station that facilitates transfers to the above ground portions of lines 3/4
-Jing'an Temple -- 2 and 7 are pretty far apart there
-Changshu Road -- likewise 1 and 7 are far apart there
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Another data point in favor of maglev/subway over all other options. I walked off the jetway today at PVG T1 (old terminal international) at 12:13pm and walked into my front door in Xuhui at 1:20pm. No other option would be even close to as fast. Yes, everything went extremely smooth but it just goes to show its the best choice!

