the pollution thread
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That's not even the point, not even who knew what, when & probably who - the comrades all looked the other way - and, like the other farmers, "they" won't dip into the same rice mills. It's shipped & sold elsewhere or at least consumed by others.
Now, government inspectors at least put on the official drama to cool people off - spin control for the media's show & tell.
Stock up on imported spring water, cup-a-noodles, energy bar & even MRE's - on recent CA flights, they were serving mostly ducks in J & F - no chicken or pork.
Now, government inspectors at least put on the official drama to cool people off - spin control for the media's show & tell.
Stock up on imported spring water, cup-a-noodles, energy bar & even MRE's - on recent CA flights, they were serving mostly ducks in J & F - no chicken or pork.
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That's not even the point, not even who knew what, when & probably who - the comrades all looked the other way - and, like the other farmers, "they" won't dip into the same rice mills. It's shipped & sold elsewhere or at least consumed by others.
Now, government inspectors at least put on the official drama to cool people off - spin control for the media's show & tell.
Stock up on imported spring water, cup-a-noodles, energy bar & even MRE's - on recent CA flights, they were serving mostly ducks in J & F - no chicken or pork.
Now, government inspectors at least put on the official drama to cool people off - spin control for the media's show & tell.
Stock up on imported spring water, cup-a-noodles, energy bar & even MRE's - on recent CA flights, they were serving mostly ducks in J & F - no chicken or pork.
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My guess is not only 2013, just in years past there was less info (not that info now is so great). One city I do like in China was Xiamen, the times I have been there clean air and in general a cleaner city (by China standards). Seems all Taxi cars there use LPG/CNG, wonder if Beijing can do that?
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My guess is not only 2013, just in years past there was less info (not that info now is so great). One city I do like in China was Xiamen, the times I have been there clean air and in general a cleaner city (by China standards). Seems all Taxi cars there use LPG/CNG, wonder if Beijing can do that?
Xiamen is indeed nice, would be one of my picks for living/working (if there were any jobs available!), and has some of the better air amongst Chinese big cities but it has three advantages:
--less volume of automobiles
--not much heavy industry contribution from the city or nearby cities
--geographic location and sea breezes the blow the stuff away.
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We'll be spending 5 days in Beijing followed by another 5 in Shanghai at the beginning of November.
Having just viewed the PM2.5 stats, I'm getting a bit worried. Should we be thinking of changing our Beijing plans and visit another city instead?
If not, what can we do in BJ that won't expose us unnecessarily to heavy levels of pollution?
Having just viewed the PM2.5 stats, I'm getting a bit worried. Should we be thinking of changing our Beijing plans and visit another city instead?
If not, what can we do in BJ that won't expose us unnecessarily to heavy levels of pollution?
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We'll be spending 5 days in Beijing followed by another 5 in Shanghai at the beginning of November.
Having just viewed the PM2.5 stats, I'm getting a bit worried. Should we be thinking of changing our Beijing plans and visit another city instead?
If not, what can we do in BJ that won't expose us unnecessarily to heavy levels of pollution?
Having just viewed the PM2.5 stats, I'm getting a bit worried. Should we be thinking of changing our Beijing plans and visit another city instead?
If not, what can we do in BJ that won't expose us unnecessarily to heavy levels of pollution?
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They can copy California "CEQA" and label it: China Environmental Quality Act.
Then claim they replaced diesel engines in construction machinery with
lithium batteries and electric motors.


