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#271
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Well, how many times are we going to reinvent the wheel? And how many times should the taxpayers have to pay for this reinvention?
We already did it once, after 9-11 ... although in truth, many people who already were working as airline screeners simply received a new uniform and a hefty raise in pay!
We already did it once, after 9-11 ... although in truth, many people who already were working as airline screeners simply received a new uniform and a hefty raise in pay!
It's going to be expensive either way. We can continue the current expensive farce and get little to nothing. Or we can pony up and fix things right (what should have been done the first time) and enjoy the cost savings after things are fixed right.
As a taxpayer and traveler, I'd rather have option 2 than keep up with the current farce.
#272
Join Date: Jan 2008
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The wheel didn't need to be reinvented, but that's exactly what happened after 9/11. The wheel needed to be rebalanced and maybe some slow leaks fixed, but that was about it.
However, we have the luxury of hindsight. At the time, no one knew whether more attacks were forthcoming, and a great many people were afraid to fly as a result. It's likely officials felt that acting decisively was the only way to restore public confidence in the safety of air travel.
At any rate, I fear a revamp now would be a rehash of what happened after 9/11: the same faces would remain; only the uniforms and titles would change. Of course, if wages and bennies were reduced significantly, everyone able to find a better job would be OUTTA THERE, and the dregs of the workforce would be left to carry on! Which would engender a new set of issues ...
#273
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However, we have the luxury of hindsight. At the time, no one knew whether more attacks were forthcoming, and a great many people were afraid to fly as a result. It's likely officials felt that acting decisively was the only way to restore public confidence in the safety of air travel.
It's one thing to act quickly when the way forward is clear. Like when the US declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. However, with things like TSA, the economic bailout, etc, there wasn't any real clear way forward. And we get things like DHS, TSA, etc, because they wanted to act quickly and decisively. And IMO, neither is good for the country.
At any rate, I fear a revamp now would be a rehash of what happened after 9/11: the same faces would remain; only the uniforms and titles would change. Of course, if wages and bennies were reduced significantly, everyone able to find a better job would be OUTTA THERE, and the dregs of the workforce would be left to carry on! Which would engender a new set of issues ...
You're right that there'd have to be some house cleaning ... a lot of bad apples would have to be gotten rid of. There will be some good people that deserve to be kept. There are many that don't. They'd have to be willing to clean house and make room for more good people. They'd have to be VERY careful who was put in charge to ensure that it wasn't screwed up ... again.
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#274
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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That's good!Seriously, I have encountered a lot of people who seem to think I've been to the Jedi academy or something when I tell them what I do for a living. It's kind of scary. BDO training teaches a pretty neat skill set, but it's just science.
Thank you! 
However ... the BDOs at my airport generally stand in one spot for long periods of time. I'm not sure I could handle that ... I'm one of those types who have to be moving around or doing something constantly. (An office job would be akin to torture for me! Actually, one of the things I like about working for the TSA is that it's moderately physical.)

However ... the BDOs at my airport generally stand in one spot for long periods of time. I'm not sure I could handle that ... I'm one of those types who have to be moving around or doing something constantly. (An office job would be akin to torture for me! Actually, one of the things I like about working for the TSA is that it's moderately physical.)
Also, our BDOs usually don't talk or interact with passengers unless they're interrogating them, and when they do, it's in an aggressive manner. It seems the unfriendliest screeners are promoted to BDO, and I'm not sure that's a coincidence! At least where I work, they seem to be looking for a certain "type," and I don't think I'd fit the profile, or fit in with the others. (Yikes!)
It seems to depend on who you speak with. I don't doubt that there are employees with these traits, possibly many employees. There is also a lot of internal politicking, jealousy, and bad blood surrounding the BDO programs at some airports.
I would be more in favor of top to bottom housecleaning and restructuring. I am afraid that a total rebuild would be likely to, yet again, recreate the same problems with a new window dressing.
It's going to be expensive either way. We can continue the current expensive farce and get little to nothing. Or we can pony up and fix things right (what should have been done the first time) and enjoy the cost savings after things are fixed right.
As a taxpayer and traveler, I'd rather have option 2 than keep up with the current farce.
As a taxpayer and traveler, I'd rather have option 2 than keep up with the current farce.
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And that's exactly what's wrong with Washington ... when it acts quickly and decisively, it messes things up and usually badly. Politicians feel the need to do "something" but don't stop to evaluate if that "something" is the right thing. Sure, people were scared to fly after 9/11. Instead of the government admitting it messed up though, it made the screeners the scapegoat and allowed for a takeover.
It's one thing to act quickly when the way forward is clear. Like when the US declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. However, with things like TSA, the economic bailout, etc, there wasn't any real clear way forward. And we get things like DHS, TSA, etc, because they wanted to act quickly and decisively. And IMO, neither is good for the country.
And that's exactly what's wrong with Washington ... when it acts quickly and decisively, it messes things up and usually badly. Politicians feel the need to do "something" but don't stop to evaluate if that "something" is the right thing. Sure, people were scared to fly after 9/11. Instead of the government admitting it messed up though, it made the screeners the scapegoat and allowed for a takeover.
It's one thing to act quickly when the way forward is clear. Like when the US declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. However, with things like TSA, the economic bailout, etc, there wasn't any real clear way forward. And we get things like DHS, TSA, etc, because they wanted to act quickly and decisively. And IMO, neither is good for the country.
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You're right that there'd have to be some house cleaning ... a lot of bad apples would have to be gotten rid of. There will be some good people that deserve to be kept. There are many that don't. They'd have to be willing to clean house and make room for more good people. They'd have to be VERY careful who was put in charge to ensure that it wasn't screwed up ... again.
Super
You're right that there'd have to be some house cleaning ... a lot of bad apples would have to be gotten rid of. There will be some good people that deserve to be kept. There are many that don't. They'd have to be willing to clean house and make room for more good people. They'd have to be VERY careful who was put in charge to ensure that it wasn't screwed up ... again.
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