cestmoi123

Agreed, but if we assume there's a justification for the liquids ban (I'm certainly not saying there is), then having some sort of testing for liquids that would be allowed on board because of a Dr's note doesn't seem unreasonable.

To give an example in a space that I certainly do find reasonable (metal detectors, as I think it's worthwhile keeping firearms off planes), we certainly should, and do, allow people with pacemakers to not go through the WTMD, since there's an important medical reason not to. We do, however, subject them to a patdown, otherwise someone could just say "pacemaker" and carry on anything they could conceal under their clothes.

GadgetFreak

I didnt say it was unreasonable to look at liquids that were brought on board because of a Dr.s note. Or that they didnt look at them, the OP indicates that they do. So what would the point of a fake note be since they check them anyways. Or for that matter that there was or wasnt a justification of the liquids ban.

ace26

It's an explosion of flavor

DLFan2

What?! Fill my bottle from a public water fountain? Someone might have touched their lips to the nozzle or drooled on it! Next you'll be suggesting that I fill my bottle in the restroom sink!

DLFan2

I think that OP was planning this confrontation for weeks in advance:

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthrea...489&highlight=

kered

Reading this entire thread I’ve gone through a full range of emotions.

Starting with shock at the treatment of the OP, followed by being incensed by the reactions & comments made by other posters. But you know, reaching the conclusion of this lengthy thread & taking the OP’s original post (as linked to above) into context, I now feel sympathy for the OP.

She is to my mind a person with many hang ups & I do mean that in the nicest possible way. But as is said upthread, this person must really have a difficult time dealing with & functioning in public situations that we all can take in our stride.

Having read that first, linked to, post it is apparent that from the get go the OP was hugely concerned over her forthcoming trip & in particular the TSA screening process. Unfortunately, through much of her own doing, she experienced exactly what she was afraid of.

We can all debate this until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, a person who feared the worst, got exactly that & had a terrible time as a result.

BearX220

No. I've tried hard to muster empathy for the OP, not least because I am prepared to believe almost anything about the TSA, but I just can't.

I do not know which the OP is:

** Genuinely, medically phobic;

** Not phobic, but honestly convinced she ought to be exempt from the rules and conventions that the rest of the traveling public copes with;

** Or a cynic who deliberately provoked havoc as a sort of political exercise.

(I am inclined to believe it's the middle option.) I do know that if the world were wholly composed of people like this, it could not function. We can only take so much neurosis.

Nobody much likes walking shoeless across the airport floor, but it doesn't kill hardly any of us. Wear two pairs of tube socks and pull yourself together. Nobody much likes having to gulp our water down before security, but hardly anybody claims they need multi-liters of liquid -- liquid you can easily buy airside -- for "religious and personal reasons." Pull yourself together.

Imagine you, late for a flight yourself, getting stuck behind this person in the security line and listening to her assertions.

I'd like to admire anyone who tests our Kafkaesque airport security conventions, but in the end I think the OP is really focused on herself, not politics.

If it is physically possible and not harmful to you to abide by the security conventions du jour, but you are determined not to for reasons that have nothing to do with civil disobedience but everything to do with ego and your own sense of exceptionalism, maybe you shouldn't be using public transport at all.

The person I really feel sorry for is the OP's teenager. Imagine growing up around this stuff. I bet the tears weren't all about the missed plane.

gpurcell

I'm trying to get my head around how a person who hasn't flown in 10-years has a head of outrage built up around TSA that rivals some of the more vociferous denizens of this forum....

DillMan

Gee, I after reading this (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...489&highlight=) I *totally* wouldn't have seen this thread happening.

Off Topic: I am flying out of DFW later this week. I only drink peach juice made in Jewish owned Mexican orchards picked in the offseason by migrant workers from Antartica. If I have a letter from the owner of the gas station by my house, do you think I can carry on a 55 gallon drum of said juice along with my Colt .45 (which I have to clutch whilst drinking the juice for medical reasons)?

Disclaimer: I despise the TSA as much as ole Spiff, but when you go looking for a fight and expect not to win, guess what happens? Methings someone probably wanted a poor me story more than a good flight.

nrr

I think they (tsa) would let you take 54 gallons max.--but only if the migrant workers came from the north pole--antarctica banned migrant workers a few years ago,

tom911

I'd be prepared to drink all 54 gallons before clearing the checkpoint.

Firewind

The OP promised a Part II. But she may have left the room (nah). I am particularly interested in what happened on the return. Thank you.

By the way, and this may improve or hurt the chances that I may get my wish, the saying comes to mind: The person who is her own doctor has a fool for a patient (sic). Could the rendition be here because nothing turned out to be actionable, and moreover, to find out if any watcher here might identify something that still might be?


EDIT: And the prequel -- e.g., what happened ten years before? Just to get a sense of the bigger picture...

correction

Good luck with your future air travels! Please use the "novice" line in the future!

tom911

I can certainly see how someone that reads this very forum on a daily basis may come up with those ideas.

correction

This is a joke