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Dec 1, 2005 | 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
... barking up the wrong tree?
Do you know about what hal1050 was referring when he said something akin to "ask the right people the right questions"? Perhaps a reference to question your bosses and bosses' bosses? Perhaps a reference to question your political representatives? Perhaps a reference to have the general public question the "right people"?
Do you know about what hal1050 was referring when he said something akin to "ask the right people the right questions"? Perhaps a reference to question your bosses and bosses' bosses? Perhaps a reference to question your political representatives? Perhaps a reference to have the general public question the "right people"?
Dec 1, 2005 | 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
You may be right. I may have interpreted this wrong. If I did, my apologizes to hal1050.
Dec 1, 2005 | 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher49
If everyone were to be paid what top entertainers are paid - and that's what professional athletes really are - then we'd all be making millions and nobodies would be worth much at all.
How about the reverse: have football players paid what teachers, cops, nurses, coal miners, lettuce pickers, etc. are made?
There is, in fact, more than one something wrong with this world. That cops who choose the job, who can retire after 20 years with a hefty pension and benefits are not paid what the top football players are paid is not nearly the worst injustice that I can think of.
How about the reverse: have football players paid what teachers, cops, nurses, coal miners, lettuce pickers, etc. are made?
There is, in fact, more than one something wrong with this world. That cops who choose the job, who can retire after 20 years with a hefty pension and benefits are not paid what the top football players are paid is not nearly the worst injustice that I can think of.
Dec 1, 2005 | 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
The reverse would be fine. At least then our priorities would be a little better. What wrong with this world is that an athlete will get paid millions even if he breaks a leg and ends his career. If an officer gets shot, he doesn't get millions, his career could be over, and he may die. Who deserves more? What entertainers make is even more bazaar than what athletes make. When one of them puts their life on the line, or puts out one fire, then maybe they'll deserve about 1/10th of what they make.
And, of course, many who have those dreams are injured in high school and college in such a way that their knees or whatever will never be the same - all before earning a penny.
There are lots and lots of people who want to be LEOs. If there weren't the salaries and benefits would go up.
The dream of everyone earning what they are worth to society instead of in the marketplace is a good one ... but it won't ever come true in this culture.
Dec 1, 2005 | 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher49
What it comes down to really, is that the competition to be one of the relatively few who can make the grade at the level of pro football ensures that those who do are rare in their skills. If there were 100 or 1000 who could do the job as well, the price would surely go down.
And, of course, many who have those dreams are injured in high school and college in such a way that their knees or whatever will never be the same - all before earning a penny.
There are lots and lots of people who want to be LEOs. If there weren't the salaries and benefits would go up.
The dream of everyone earning what they are worth to society instead of in the marketplace is a good one ... but it won't ever come true in this culture.
And, of course, many who have those dreams are injured in high school and college in such a way that their knees or whatever will never be the same - all before earning a penny.
There are lots and lots of people who want to be LEOs. If there weren't the salaries and benefits would go up.
The dream of everyone earning what they are worth to society instead of in the marketplace is a good one ... but it won't ever come true in this culture.
Dec 1, 2005 | 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher49
Sorry, ma'm, in that case we'll have to check your bag for drugs. Never know. 
And could that really hot young guy give me that pat down??
Dec 1, 2005 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by bambi47
Are you saying that I may be right??? OMG, I feel faint!!
Nothing you said "went clear over my head either". On the other hand, what I said went clear over your head since there are obviously more than just two possible ways of screening air passengers other than the way TSA and El Al do it. Do Israelis use what American Airlines accepted as appropriate screening for their airports in Israel? No. Their methods are designed for their situation, their culture, their laws. The problem is that your methods and treatment of the public don't represent what's appropriate for a "free" society or passengers wouldn't be having these conversations about you people daily on here. Your answer to everything is "same of more and how dare you question authority." TOugh cheese, you still live in a society where the fourth amendment has been been all but overturned but the first one hasn't been damaged as much, so that's how that goes.
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Dec 1, 2005 | 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by hal1050
Since you clearly imagine you're right about everything, why on earth would you feel faint about being validated by someone other than other TSA agents and hiltonhead?
Nothing you said "went clear over my head either". On the other hand, what I said went clear over your head since there are obviously more than just two possible ways of screening air passengers other than the way TSA and El Al do it. Do Israelis use what American Airlines accepted as appropriate screening for their airports in Israel? No. Their methods are designed for their situation, their culture, their laws. The problem is that your methods and treatment of the public don't represent what's appropriate for a "free" society or passengers wouldn't be having these conversations about you people daily on here. Your answer to everything is "same of more and how dare you question authority." TOugh cheese, you still live in a society where the fourth amendment has been been all but overturned but the first one hasn't been damaged as much, so that's how that goes.
Nothing you said "went clear over my head either". On the other hand, what I said went clear over your head since there are obviously more than just two possible ways of screening air passengers other than the way TSA and El Al do it. Do Israelis use what American Airlines accepted as appropriate screening for their airports in Israel? No. Their methods are designed for their situation, their culture, their laws. The problem is that your methods and treatment of the public don't represent what's appropriate for a "free" society or passengers wouldn't be having these conversations about you people daily on here. Your answer to everything is "same of more and how dare you question authority." TOugh cheese, you still live in a society where the fourth amendment has been been all but overturned but the first one hasn't been damaged as much, so that's how that goes.
Dec 2, 2005 | 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by hal1050
Since you clearly imagine you're right about everything, why on earth would you feel faint about being validated by someone other than other TSA agents and hiltonhead?
Nothing you said "went clear over my head either". On the other hand, what I said went clear over your head since there are obviously more than just two possible ways of screening air passengers other than the way TSA and El Al do it. Do Israelis use what American Airlines accepted as appropriate screening for their airports in Israel? No. Their methods are designed for their situation, their culture, their laws. The problem is that your methods and treatment of the public don't represent what's appropriate for a "free" society or passengers wouldn't be having these conversations about you people daily on here. Your answer to everything is "same of more and how dare you question authority." TOugh cheese, you still live in a society where the fourth amendment has been been all but overturned but the first one hasn't been damaged as much, so that's how that goes.
Nothing you said "went clear over my head either". On the other hand, what I said went clear over your head since there are obviously more than just two possible ways of screening air passengers other than the way TSA and El Al do it. Do Israelis use what American Airlines accepted as appropriate screening for their airports in Israel? No. Their methods are designed for their situation, their culture, their laws. The problem is that your methods and treatment of the public don't represent what's appropriate for a "free" society or passengers wouldn't be having these conversations about you people daily on here. Your answer to everything is "same of more and how dare you question authority." TOugh cheese, you still live in a society where the fourth amendment has been been all but overturned but the first one hasn't been damaged as much, so that's how that goes.
I was just minding my own business, enjoying a cup of coffee...how did I get dragged into this?
Dec 2, 2005 | 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
I thought I was addressing GUWonder, him and I have a mutual admiration society going.
From my part, the "mutual" in "mutual admiration" is not there. Admire? Nah, amusement.
1. There are not many whom I admire.
2. Increasing familiarity often breeds increasing contempt.
Things to remember.
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Dec 2, 2005 | 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
The reverse would be fine. At least then our priorities would be a little better. What wrong with this world is that an athlete will get paid millions even if he breaks a leg and ends his career. If an officer gets shot, he doesn't get millions, his career could be over, and he may die. Who deserves more? What entertainers make is even more bazaar than what athletes make. When one of them puts their life on the line, or puts out one fire, then maybe they'll deserve about 1/10th of what they make.
The labor market -- and marketplace that a good portion of Americans and the world support financially and otherwise -- has led to the salary structures (or non-salaries/low salaries in the case of the majority of professional athletes and entertainers).
If you oppose the labor markets functioning in such a manner, perhaps a lesson in Soviet Economics 101 would help. But even the Chinese and Vietnamese are increasingly not practicing such lessons. So perhaps you need to attend North Korea's Pyongyang University? The TSA taking lessons from there?
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Dec 2, 2005 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by bambi47
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to you.
In other words he is confirming that "you were barking up the wrong tree".
And in your following quote,
Originally Posted by bambi47
I may have interpreted this wrong. If I did, my apologizes to hal1050.
Last edited by GUWonder; Dec 2, 2005 at 6:31 am