TSA wants to get more intimate when doing passenger pat downs.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:14 pm
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I once had SSSS and knew about it in advance. I wore the smallest, tight-fitting shorts I own, along with a tight-fitting t-shirt.
That did not stop the screening from going inside of shorts, all over the t-shirt, and my bare arms and legs.
Even minimal and tight-fitting clothes offer no protection.
That did not stop the screening from going inside of shorts, all over the t-shirt, and my bare arms and legs.
Even minimal and tight-fitting clothes offer no protection.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:29 pm
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This article contains the mother's Facebook post, describing in detail TSA's response.
https://consumerist.com/2017/03/31/t...ying-pat-down/
https://consumerist.com/2017/03/31/t...ying-pat-down/
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/trans...security-check
But the Transportation Security Administration said in a prepared statement that it followed approved procedures to "resolve an alarm of the passenger's laptop."
TSA issued the following statement to Dallas's WFAA-TV regarding the incident:
“TSA allows for a pat-down of a teenage passenger, and in this case, all approved procedures were followed to resolve an alarm of the passenger’s laptop.
“TSA allows for a pat-down of a teenage passenger, and in this case, all approved procedures were followed to resolve an alarm of the passenger’s laptop.
A furious mother has posted a video of her young son with special needs being given a lengthy and invasive pat-down by a Transportation Security Administration agent – but the TSA says the screening was all within policy.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:32 pm
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They also don't realize that the problem isn't how the patdown was done. This isn't a procedural problem. The procedure itself is the problem.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:44 pm
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Per the mother TSA has apologized now, here's her FB link:
Last edited by TWA884; Mar 31, 2017 at 2:59 pm Reason: Attempted to fix link to make it display - see my post below to see link
Mar 31, 2017, 12:51 pm
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Second, the alarm was not on the boy. The alarm was on a laptop computer, so claims TSA. How by any stretch of imagination does a pat down of the boy resolve that alarm. This was a case of abuse not security. Yet TSA will not take any responsibility for what happen.
If, as the mother claims, these actions were directed by an angry TSA screener then we have bigger fish to fry. That person has no business in a public service position. If they can't handle a few questions then move them to a non public work area or better yet fire them.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:56 pm
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TSA asked Kristin Beck to work with them to improve the screening of transgender people, but as far as I know that went nowhere and transgenders are still treated poorly by TSA.
Mar 31, 2017, 1:37 pm
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Several problems. The pat down of minors is not acceptable unless very strong reasons exist. Then it should be a law enforcement matter. At least most LEO's have a clue about the 4th amendment and limits of a body search.
Second, the alarm was not on the boy. The alarm was on a laptop computer, so claims TSA. How by any stretch of imagination does a pat down of the boy resolve that alarm. This was a case of abuse not security. Yet TSA will not take any responsibility for what happen.
If, as the mother claims, these actions were directed by an angry TSA screener then we have bigger fish to fry. That person has no business in a public service position. If they can't handle a few questions then move them to a non public work area or better yet fire them.
Second, the alarm was not on the boy. The alarm was on a laptop computer, so claims TSA. How by any stretch of imagination does a pat down of the boy resolve that alarm. This was a case of abuse not security. Yet TSA will not take any responsibility for what happen.
If, as the mother claims, these actions were directed by an angry TSA screener then we have bigger fish to fry. That person has no business in a public service position. If they can't handle a few questions then move them to a non public work area or better yet fire them.
If ordinary visitors to the White House don't have to endure getting their genitals groped by the government, there is no acceptable reason for the same person to have their genitals manually examined by the government as a condition to fly.
Mar 31, 2017, 2:35 pm
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This TSA rubbing of even adult passenger genitals should be considered unacceptable.
If ordinary visitors to the White House don't have to endure getting their genitals groped by the government, there is no acceptable reason for the same person to have their genitals manually examined by the government as a condition to fly.
If ordinary visitors to the White House don't have to endure getting their genitals groped by the government, there is no acceptable reason for the same person to have their genitals manually examined by the government as a condition to fly.
Mar 31, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Even if the boy were an adult man at the airport screening checkpoint, there would still be no good reason for the TSA to touch the person like this.
Mar 31, 2017, 2:57 pm
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Per the mother TSA has apologized now, here's her FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/jendemirecs...12022654500255
https://www.facebook.com/jendemirecs...12022654500255
Mar 31, 2017, 3:03 pm
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Let's if if the link displays when I post it:
Oh, well, it does not show up in my post, but it does display in the quote.
Oh, well, it does not show up in my post, but it does display in the quote.
Mar 31, 2017, 3:24 pm
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If you can't get the Facebook link to work, the Consumerist link I posted previously (https://consumerist.com/2017/03/31/t...ying-pat-down/) has an embedded copy of her Facebook post.
Mar 31, 2017, 3:32 pm
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Unfortunately, TSA is an equal opportunity abuser.
Mar 31, 2017, 6:41 pm
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Per the mother TSA has apologized now, here's her FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/jendemirecs...12022654500255
https://www.facebook.com/jendemirecs...12022654500255