Your Worst POE experiences outside of the US
#76
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he asked which football team I liked. I thought about lying but decided to tell the truth. As soon as I said cowboys he yelled "You f'ing have to be kidding me. I should arrest you for being a cowboys fan as lesson" and open the gate and said get the hell back to my hotel and never forget my passport again.
Lesson learned. I have never leave without my passport.
Canada is not as easy as it used to be in your story sadly.
#77
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: coastal Croatia
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Did your wife mentioned above give up her EU citizenship or are you divorced?
If your wife is an EU citizen from a country other than Finland, or if she was intending to move from another EU country to Finland with you, then you had a legal right to migrate to Finland if she decided to do so too and you guys became economically active in Finland within 90 days.
HEL's passage is closed to me? Oh, I'm crying. If I were stuck living in HEL, I'd be aiming to live it up in Croatia instead too.
HEL seems to have issues with my travel parties too -- just not as much as those old Warsaw Pact countries' airports now do in such a way that it reminds me that the more things change the more some things don't. Passport control in some places remind me of this, WAW for example. But HEL just seems more uptight formal than is common in the NPU countries.
If your wife is an EU citizen from a country other than Finland, or if she was intending to move from another EU country to Finland with you, then you had a legal right to migrate to Finland if she decided to do so too and you guys became economically active in Finland within 90 days.
HEL's passage is closed to me? Oh, I'm crying. If I were stuck living in HEL, I'd be aiming to live it up in Croatia instead too.
HEL seems to have issues with my travel parties too -- just not as much as those old Warsaw Pact countries' airports now do in such a way that it reminds me that the more things change the more some things don't. Passport control in some places remind me of this, WAW for example. But HEL just seems more uptight formal than is common in the NPU countries.
In retrospect, maybe if I had been alone it would have been fine--an American tourist visiting Finland for the weekend. I don't what set him off but he didn't like whatever combination my wife and I represented.
#78
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The only place where I've had any trouble was England and I can understand why it happened although it was somewhat unjustified. This was back in 1982.
We had just spent the last 5 months crossing Africa overland on a trip that went well over schedule. My father had an earlier deadline he had to be home by so he had already flown on out, we were intending to follow a few weeks later. We then find out that that's not going to be an option, it's fly out from the city we are in or wait more than a month for the next opportunity.
Now, to compound matters we were having credit card problems there--network related, not anything wrong with the card. The end result of this is my mother (blind) and I (17 at the time) land in England with a total of $5 between us. Furthermore, some months earlier thieves had struck, they got our cool-weather clothing. (Our tropical stuff was out and being used, the cool weather stuff was packed away and it was the latter the thieves got into.) Thus we were dressed in somewhat worn tropical attire.
We know that my father is in London but we have no idea where as we had no plans to be in the city at the same time he was, thus we made no contact arrangements.
Somehow the immigration guy got it in his head that we were trying to get into England to get medical treatment for my mother. (What medical treatment could restore vision to someone without eyeballs I don't know.) We sat there for two hours before we got him to take the credit card over to British Airways and see if they would accept it for an onward flight. They had no problem with it, we were admitted. We had planned to spend a few days in London, after that experience we changed our plans and flew out that afternoon. (This was back when last minute standby tickets were substantially cheaper than normal tickets, rather than costing a lot extra like normally happens now.)
And something we noticed on that trip--the ideal smuggling device. We got pretty careful inspections from several countries in the Soviet block (I'm not counting these as bad experiences as we weren't being singled out) but no matter how careful nobody ever inspected my mother's folding blind-cane despite the fact that it was obviously hollow. (In it's folded state it was half a dozen sections of metal tubing with a cable going through them and a handle. Straighten it out, pull the tensioner on the cable and you have an ordinary blind-cane.)
We had just spent the last 5 months crossing Africa overland on a trip that went well over schedule. My father had an earlier deadline he had to be home by so he had already flown on out, we were intending to follow a few weeks later. We then find out that that's not going to be an option, it's fly out from the city we are in or wait more than a month for the next opportunity.
Now, to compound matters we were having credit card problems there--network related, not anything wrong with the card. The end result of this is my mother (blind) and I (17 at the time) land in England with a total of $5 between us. Furthermore, some months earlier thieves had struck, they got our cool-weather clothing. (Our tropical stuff was out and being used, the cool weather stuff was packed away and it was the latter the thieves got into.) Thus we were dressed in somewhat worn tropical attire.
We know that my father is in London but we have no idea where as we had no plans to be in the city at the same time he was, thus we made no contact arrangements.
Somehow the immigration guy got it in his head that we were trying to get into England to get medical treatment for my mother. (What medical treatment could restore vision to someone without eyeballs I don't know.) We sat there for two hours before we got him to take the credit card over to British Airways and see if they would accept it for an onward flight. They had no problem with it, we were admitted. We had planned to spend a few days in London, after that experience we changed our plans and flew out that afternoon. (This was back when last minute standby tickets were substantially cheaper than normal tickets, rather than costing a lot extra like normally happens now.)
And something we noticed on that trip--the ideal smuggling device. We got pretty careful inspections from several countries in the Soviet block (I'm not counting these as bad experiences as we weren't being singled out) but no matter how careful nobody ever inspected my mother's folding blind-cane despite the fact that it was obviously hollow. (In it's folded state it was half a dozen sections of metal tubing with a cable going through them and a handle. Straighten it out, pull the tensioner on the cable and you have an ordinary blind-cane.)
Last edited by Loren Pechtel; Dec 28, 2015 at 10:27 pm
#79
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Finnish-Russian railway border, mid-1990's. At the time my country had an ancient agreement still in force, providing visa free travel to Russia if one had a hotel voucher (!). I needed to go to St Pete for a day, so no voucher. I was removed from the train in Viborg, was interrogated for a while and the officer informed me in a very official language that I was denied entry to the territory of the Russian Federation and will be sent back to Finland on the next train (due in about 6 hrs or so) Then I was let go to town (!) and instructed to be back at the station at xxxx hrs to catch the train back. As I was still a bit wet behind the ears, instead of catching a cab to St Pete and doing whatever I had planned to do, I jsut went to have lunch and some sight-seeing in Viborg, called the office to buy a hotel voucher for the next day and returned to the station at the said time to be back home in the evening. When I told them my story, the Finnish border guards commented that the day before an Austrian diplomat had the same fate, except he spent all those hours under armed guard at the railway police station.
The next day, armed with my very important voucher I took the same train again. The (different) Russian officer threw back the voucher which I placed in the passport with a "I asked for your passport only" grunt.
The next day, armed with my very important voucher I took the same train again. The (different) Russian officer threw back the voucher which I placed in the passport with a "I asked for your passport only" grunt.
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When it slows things down more than needed with no better results to show for it, maybe that.
They more often ask more questions than they need to ask to admit even those with prima facie evidence of being admissible.
They more often ask more questions than they need to ask to admit even those with prima facie evidence of being admissible.
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HEL isn't the worst EU port of entry into the Schengen area.
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#84
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I've never had a really bad experience crossing any border, but the grumpiest border guards I've come across have been CBSA at Lacolle, QC when entering Canada by train. Very miserable both times we've crossed. US CBP at Rouses Point on our most recent return, by comparison, were almost in full-on party mode: even making jokes with passengers.
#85
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We turned off the road near the duty free store - I later confirmed that we never crossed into Canada - but we had passed the point of no return. We pulled up to the USCBP officer who asked us how our time in Canada was. I said with a big smile, "We never made it! " and went on to describe that we had gotten turned around while trying to find our way around the lake and were trying to continue on US 2. We were then informed that US 2 ended at the junction and that we needed to take US 11 South west to get to US 9 South. From the conversation, it seemed like we were far from the first misdirected travelers to make this mistake. The officer even gave suggestions of places to stop along the way when we told him we were heading around the lake. ^ Definitely my best POE story even though I had never left in the first place!
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My experiences have been pretty minor.
Most annoying was this past week at POS. They seemed understaffed at Immigration as it was, and the line was very slow. The airline was short on entry forms, so after some consultation with the ground, they (UA) insisted that there should only be 1 form per family, not per person (and the back of the form does ask for names & other info on those traveling with the primary traveler, including spouses and not just children).
They didn't have entry forms handy at the Immigration line, either.
After waiting in line for 30 minutes, the agent immediately says, "You both need forms. Go fill one out and get into the back of the line." He rejected many, many people in line, and wouldn't take those who completed the form ahead of others in line (meaning effectively you had another 30 minute wait ahead of you). He also spent a long time reviewing each and every form and passport, particularly for US citizens (probably 5 minutes per person).
Fortunately, other agents weren't so nit-picky and were calling over people who had completed the additional forms, to that guy's scowls. We managed to dodge him the 2nd go-round, and the agent who processed ours glanced at passports, stamped the forms and passports, and waved us through.
Not sure why that one agent had such a bad day... but he did cost us ~20 extra minutes.
Most annoying was this past week at POS. They seemed understaffed at Immigration as it was, and the line was very slow. The airline was short on entry forms, so after some consultation with the ground, they (UA) insisted that there should only be 1 form per family, not per person (and the back of the form does ask for names & other info on those traveling with the primary traveler, including spouses and not just children).
They didn't have entry forms handy at the Immigration line, either.
After waiting in line for 30 minutes, the agent immediately says, "You both need forms. Go fill one out and get into the back of the line." He rejected many, many people in line, and wouldn't take those who completed the form ahead of others in line (meaning effectively you had another 30 minute wait ahead of you). He also spent a long time reviewing each and every form and passport, particularly for US citizens (probably 5 minutes per person).
Fortunately, other agents weren't so nit-picky and were calling over people who had completed the additional forms, to that guy's scowls. We managed to dodge him the 2nd go-round, and the agent who processed ours glanced at passports, stamped the forms and passports, and waved us through.
Not sure why that one agent had such a bad day... but he did cost us ~20 extra minutes.