Originally Posted by DaveBlaine (Post 25600323)

I prefer the term "Security Theater" (or Security Theatre if you're so inclined).

Originally Posted by LeslieJam (Post 25600269)

As a taxpaying American I hate thinking about the amount of money we are paying for their disorganized, no security/security playacting.

Originally Posted by LeslieJam (Post 25596100)

. . . It is not TSA's intention to make passengers feel uncomfortable or violated while going through the screening procedure. . . .

Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 25596163)

"... please provide a photo of yourself...." ...?

Originally Posted by LeslieJam (Post 25600333)

Actually me too! :) And I prefer the THEATRE because you know....I can be pretentious.

Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 25601122)

Maybe they're actually going to pull tapes?



Then you'll fit in well around here. ;)

I acutally have a call tomorrow with one of the staff on the House Homeland Security Committee. Not letting it die.

Mike

Originally Posted by yandosan (Post 25599667)

If you're talking about the Gestapo, as evil as they were, at least they were efficient.
TSA on the other hand is an exercise in futility. I always laugh out loud at the
videos of Kokesh asking TSA dimwits a simple question that always trips them up--
how many terrorists has TSA caught to date?

Originally Posted by Kate2015 (Post 25595513)

I believe it's implied consent when you enter the checkpoint, so good luck.

Originally Posted by KL714 (Post 25597154)

For some reason I got SSSS'ed twice (with PreCheck) this year on two itineraries originating from Europe on UA
[snip]
(they basically told me 'sorry, United did it' when I asked them why I had it) .

Originally Posted by LeslieJam (Post 25600269)

As a taxpaying American I hate thinking about the amount of money we are paying for their disorganized, no security/security playacting.

Originally Posted by Kate2015 (Post 25596390)

Except that's exactly their intent. Humiliation to force compliance.

Originally Posted by KRSW (Post 25603696)

Watch the 2006 film Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others). Seriously. Please, I beg of you to do so. I'd buy a copy for everyone on FT and mail it to them if I could. For that matter, if I could find a way to get NBC/CBS/ABC to play it on national TV, especially before the upcoming elections, I would.

Without giving away the movie, it's about 1980s-era East Germany/Berlin, from the perspective of working inside the Stasi. I believe it's the only film which has ever taken this approach. They went out of their way to accurately portray the agency, it's methods, techniques, and targets. They use the real Stasi buildings, real Stasi equipment, real Stasi techniques.

Please note that I've not even shared my views on the movie or how it relates to today -- I don't have to. This film speaks for itself.



Consent (implied or direct) does not nullify the laws of the land. ie: prostitution. Both parties are consenting, but it still doesn't make the act any more legal because of consent.



Reason #2,322 not to fly on UA :D



Let's just say that it would have paid for a lot of healthcare for people who really needed it. Even more when you consider the costs the airlines have had to incur and how many wasted man-hours of pax (esp @ business travelers' salaries).



That's what the Stasi often employed.

Originally Posted by KL714 (Post 25597154)

For some reason I got SSSS'ed twice (with PreCheck) this year on two itineraries originating from Europe on UA (departing from AMS and BRU respectively) and was taken to a separate area near the gate at both airports..

Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 25597957)

I don't know about "agencies," but I do know that European airport security and airlines that fly to the US know exactly what SSSS is..

Originally Posted by weero (Post 25591172)

FROM Western Europe??? There's no TSA in Europe, how could that be?

Originally Posted by weero (Post 25620263)

Any takers?

Any pictures of Euro carrier BPs US-bound that carry an "SSSS"?

Originally Posted by LeslieJam (Post 25624063)

TSA followed up today, and asked questions about the agents involved, including physical description. I provided it. Will see what happens.

Not dead yet.