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Originally Posted by Zomba
(Post 25591954)
I've gotten SSSS flying PVG-DTW. I think that 1-way tickets and cash bookings both can trigger my least favorite four-letter "word".
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Originally Posted by KRSW
(Post 25592185)
chollie beat me to it -- the secret Turkey SSSS. That was the first thing which came to mind.
Sadly, I have to agree... with the female non-Caucasian TSA employees at JFK being the worst. One of them tried to Keep on them -- don't let this story die. I'm all for real security, but the TSA is standing in the way of true security. I'm more scared having TSA in place than the old pre-DHS/TSA days. I've not had to be subjected to any of the TSA or SSSS bullssssh to enter military bases, federal courthouses, military installations, federal law enforcement offices, etc. At no point has any of the security officers (who are sworn law enforcement officers at the aforementioned locations) ever barked/yelled/raised their voice at me, required me to get rid of my water, take off my shoes, etc. They've almost always been dressed in a proper suit w/tie or proper military uniform, polite yet firm, and often friendly. But I have no doubt their demeanor would change rapidly if they sensed a threat. THESE are the people we need running airport security. |
Originally Posted by LeslieJam
(Post 25591246)
I'm taking it as far as I can. Nobody puts baby in the corner.
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Originally Posted by LeslieJam
(Post 25592293)
Thanks for the encouragement. I will not back down. It was such an awful experience I would never want to see anyone else go through that.
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Originally Posted by LeslieJam
(Post 25591505)
Actually did so, because I would never treat anyone like I was treated regardless of who or what they were.
Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 25591764)
It's my understanding the airline assigns SSSS at the time of booking, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone got an SSSS on the return leg of a trip to Europe.
Originally Posted by BSBD
(Post 25592266)
If you want to fly to the US, you have to abide by US screening requirements.
Those European countries are sovereign. They apply some measures that they negotiated with foreign affairs but they do certainly not comply with or implement TSA policies and routine. Yes, it is, when your boarding pass says SSSS and you are subjected to SSSS screening. People here may confuse the often invasive and obnoxious screening procesures in Europe with a TSA mandated SSSS. My 'best' - i.e. the best impersonation of what a molester might aim for - I got on a German domestic flight... |
Originally Posted by weero
(Post 25594724)
You just disqualified yourself from a career as TSA agent :cool: .
So? There's no agency that would know what to do with the Schutzstaffel squared label. 'You' may have to do that. Those European countries are sovereign. They apply some measures that they negotiated with foreign affairs but they do certainly not comply with or implement TSA policies and routine. On US territory or US outposts absolutely. It's meaningless in Europe. People here may confuse the often invasive and obnoxious screening procesures in Europe with a TSA mandated SSSS. My 'best' - i.e. the best impersonation of what a molester might aim for - I got on a German domestic flight... |
Originally Posted by nmh1204
(Post 25591586)
that's sexual assault, they touched you in a sexual manner without your consent, take it to the police
As far as PreCheck and SSSS, I think I had it this summer while heading to NRT. I couldn't check in online, and when I called AA about it, the agent disappeared forever, then came back and said, "We noticed something on your PNR and took care of it for you." A search here told me that was probably SSSS. I've never been to IST, either. Probably it was the fact I'd change the ticket three times. But yeah...it can happen. |
Originally Posted by Kate2015
(Post 25595513)
I believe it's implied consent when you enter the checkpoint, so good luck.
As far as PreCheck and SSSS, I think I had it this summer while heading to NRT. I couldn't check in online, and when I called AA about it, the agent disappeared forever, then came back and said, "We noticed something on your PNR and took care of it for you." A search here told me that was probably SSSS. I've never been to IST, either. Probably it was the fact I'd change the ticket three times. But yeah...it can happen. Would a cavity check fall under your Implied Consent criteria? Where is the line if not? |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 25595658)
The consent is for screening. I don't think that screening can be boundless or whatever TSA wants to do that day.
Would a cavity check fall under your Implied Consent criteria? Where is the line if not? |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 25595658)
The consent is for screening. I don't think that screening can be boundless or whatever TSA wants to do that day.
Would a cavity check fall under your Implied Consent criteria? Where is the line if not? |
TSA responded with a more personal response
Interesting. Some kind of basic spelling mistakes but I will respond. I also am fortunate to have both a brother and a sister in law who work for the Senate and House respectively, both are also assisting.
This will not die. :) ************************************************** *************** Thank you for taking the time to contact TSA regarding the patdown you received from an officer while traveling through John F. Kennedy International Airport. We strive to ensure that all passengers, including their accessible property, are treated with courtesy, dignity and respect during the screening process. It is not TSA's intention to make passengers feel uncomfortable or violated while going through the screening procedure. We sincerely apologized for the way this patdown made you feel. I would like to forward your complaint to the terminal manager to address with the officer involved. In order to identify the officer involved, please provide a photo of yourself and a description of what you were wearing on the day that you travelled. Approximately what time did this patdown occur? Please state the lane that you were on at the chekcpoint? Did you speak to the supervisor on the security checkpoint? Please be advise that a passenger can always request to speak to a supervisor at the checkpoint to address any concerns regarding screening procedures. One of our key objectives has been to ensure that all passengers consistently receive professional and courteous checkpoint processing while maintaining our high level of security. We sincerely apologize for any embarassment or inconvenience this may have caused you. Thank you for contacting us, hope to hear from you soon. |
Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 25595729)
Either Chertoff or Pistole said that the TSA could do cavity searches if it felt the need to do so.
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"... please provide a photo of yourself...." ...?
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"Speak to a supervisor"?
Often the supervisor will not only back up the errant employee, s/he will double down. After all, the supervisor works with the employee every day; s/he likely will never see the pax again. It's a no-brainer who he's going to support much of the time. Good luck getting the name of anyone, particularly a supervisor or suit. It's hard to understand why they are so wary of giving out their names - it's not like they're going to be held accountable or anything. |
Originally Posted by LeslieJam
(Post 25596107)
Agree for someone who was 'randomly selected' a body cavity search is well beyond the pale. And it did happen to me.
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