TSA Passenger Freeze Drill
May 5, 2013, 1:48 pm
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They likely wouldn't know either since there's no case law about moving during a Bravo AFAIK.
Providing you do not assault the TSA workers, what goes on at the checkpoint isn't criminal law anyway - it's administrative.
Page 9 of this TSA document (pdf) shows the sanctions (fines) which could be imposed should it be considered "interfering".
I agree it's a ridiculous antic but not worth getting exercised about IMO. Just adopt an exaggerated frozen stance and smile sweetly at them.
Providing you do not assault the TSA workers, what goes on at the checkpoint isn't criminal law anyway - it's administrative.
Page 9 of this TSA document (pdf) shows the sanctions (fines) which could be imposed should it be considered "interfering".
I agree it's a ridiculous antic but not worth getting exercised about IMO. Just adopt an exaggerated frozen stance and smile sweetly at them.
May 5, 2013, 2:52 pm
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There is case law. Considerable: they have no power to stop or detain anyone outside of an administrative screening in a defined area for a defined purpose. Ignoring them while they conduct their unannounced training exercises in a public area is not going to be a losing proposition for the public. Now if they do it within the screening area it might become a tad murky.
May 5, 2013, 3:22 pm
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There is case law. Considerable: they have no power to stop or detain anyone outside of an administrative screening in a defined area for a defined purpose. Ignoring them while they conduct their unannounced training exercises in a public area is not going to be a losing proposition for the public. Now if they do it within the screening area it might become a tad murky.
May 5, 2013, 4:57 pm
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May 5, 2013, 5:46 pm
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There is case law. Considerable: they have no power to stop or detain anyone outside of an administrative screening in a defined area for a defined purpose. Ignoring them while they conduct their unannounced training exercises in a public area is not going to be a losing proposition for the public. Now if they do it within the screening area it might become a tad murky.
And I believe they do only do it within the confines of a single checkpoint, although that definition too is a bit murky. I'd say if you are landside of the TDC station or out airside of the checkpoint "Bravo" doesn't apply.
May 5, 2013, 6:11 pm
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I was specifically referring to cases, prosecutions or fines resulting from non-compliance with a "Bravo" farce umm..., drill.
And I believe they do only do it within the confines of a single checkpoint, although that definition too is a bit murky. I'd say if you are landside of the TDC station or out airside of the checkpoint "Bravo" doesn't apply.
And I believe they do only do it within the confines of a single checkpoint, although that definition too is a bit murky. I'd say if you are landside of the TDC station or out airside of the checkpoint "Bravo" doesn't apply.
May 6, 2013, 12:10 am
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It's been discussed here many, many times. The search function is your friend.
Or you might try this link which I think is a nice, albeit long, overview.
Or you might try this link which I think is a nice, albeit long, overview.
With that said, I appreciate the link!
May 6, 2013, 5:13 am
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Right. And that's why I don't think we'll ever find any case law on this point: nobody would ever be charged. Even inside the screening area once you've completed screening, "interfering with the screening process" is a real stretch. By definition, they've stopped the screening process. What are you interfering with?
May 6, 2013, 8:10 am
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