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Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 18733356)
Originally Posted by yyzvoyageur
(Post 18732056)
No, the voice of reason.
Although I don't have the guts to engage in these acts of civil disobedience myself, I applaud those who do. They are standing up for the rights and freedoms of all, at some risk to themselves. How is that "unreasonable"? |
Originally Posted by cottonmather0
(Post 18733111)
We had a 15 second silent staredown, then she sighed and gave me gigantic red squiggles and handed me my docs back. I think I could see the steam coming out of her ears when I tossed the BP in the trash bin next to her.
Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 18733356)
Although I don't have the guts to engage in these acts of civil disobedience myself, I applaud those who do. They are standing up for the rights and freedoms of all, at some risk to themselves. How is that "unreasonable"?
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Originally Posted by yyzvoyageur
(Post 18733525)
Don't compare the TSA with Hitler. You lose all credibility.
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Every government has a list of some sort to keep track of people who are problematic. Your local police station likely has one. The FBI has had one for years. On one hand, I don't think that the absence of a watch list would have made any difference to the Holocaust, and on the other hand, I think it's ridiculous to say that the TSA should not maintain a list of people who deserve extra scrutiny.
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Originally Posted by cbn42
(Post 18734577)
I think it's ridiculous to say that the TSA should not maintain a list of people who deserve extra scrutiny.
Someone who is arrestable on sight should be on the FBI and police lists and subject to law enforcement, not the TSA. Otherwise the criterion seems to be "suspicious activity" which is a subjective and arbitrary determination. And contrary to the 5th Amendment, viz. ...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.... If individual airlines wish to bar people from availing themselves of their service due to past behavior, that's a civil matter; nothing to do with the government and certainly not the TSA. The important point is that it simply does not work. No actual threat has been intercepted by the list. Ever. A number of suspected and even confirmed (Times Square bomber) terrorists have sailed through. If the screening is 100% effective then it really doesn't matter who is on the plane. If it's not 100% effective then fix it; which is the rub - it can't be done. A speculative, farcical list would just be a canard were it not an erosion of essential liberty. |
Originally Posted by yyzvoyageur
(Post 18733525)
Just tell the guy your name is on the boarding pass (or identity document). That's what I'd likely do if they played this game in Canada. Don't engage in childish games by giving false names, etc. That's all I'm saying. Don't compare the TSA with Hitler. You lose all credibility.
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From my 6th grade English class:
Name spelled: Ghoti Name pronounced: Fish ??? "Gh" as in laugh, "o" as in women, "ti" as station |
Originally Posted by saulblum
(Post 18726471)
I look forward to the day that this guy is asked to play the name game.
Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 18726606)
Holy underwear. I had to read that poor guy's name about 10 times before I got it.
Von... Haagen Dazs? Van Den Haas. It's Dutch.
Originally Posted by exbayern
(Post 18727446)
I have been told many times that I did not say MY NAME correctly :rolleyes: by Americans, including TSA. Since I am fluent in German and in French, I will accept either from a German or a French speaker, and when in France will even pronounce my name in the French manner. But I refuse to accept an American telling me that I do not know how to pronounce my own name, simply because they are ignorant. Mike |
How should Finnish curling-world champion and MP, Mr Uuspaavalniemi pronounce his name to be let through? Or ex-Prime Minister Mrs Jäätteenmäki, whom even the BBC News called "Mrs Unpronounciable"?
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Originally Posted by mikeef
(Post 18736822)
There's a large TSO population that barely speaks English.
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 18736908)
How should Finnish curling-world champion and MP, Mr Uuspaavalniemi pronounce his name to be let through? Or ex-Prime Minister Mrs Jäätteenmäki, whom even the BBC News called "Mrs Unpronounciable"?
Oh wait, they're "dusky" so they'll get the extra screening anyway :( . |
Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 18736908)
How should Finnish curling-world champion and MP, Mr Uuspaavalniemi pronounce his name to be let through? Or ex-Prime Minister Mrs Jäätteenmäki, whom even the BBC News called "Mrs Unpronounciable"?
Imagine that: there's more than one way to pronounce a given subset of 26 letters! |
Originally Posted by saulblum
(Post 18737037)
If you have the Google Translate phone app, try putting in some names and "translating" to various languages, and then have the app read the name in the chosen language.
Imagine that: there's more than one way to pronounce a given subset of 26 letters! If you take into account, that it is the English alphabet that has only 26 letters, whereas others have more (and I'm talking about languages using the Latin script) the prospects are mind-bogling. Think about all those àáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõöøùúûüýāăąćĉċčđēĕėęěĝğ 's facing a TSO :D All this to get to a security checkpoint. |
Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 18737083)
All this to get to a
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Originally Posted by saulblum
(Post 18737149)
There, corrected that for you.
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