testing eye drops
Jun 16, 2012, 3:38 pm
#16
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Not a chance in Satan's realm would I let a TSO open my sealed meds let alone
stick something in it that could contaminate it. I would be screaming for a supervisor.
I would have demaned a three striper before letting them take it. I always take one of my Camelbak bottles and have never had an issue. On my last flight the TSA was playing the gate check game (before boarding I only saw them pull aside a big chested blonde and a black Muslim guy. Imaging that 
) and walked by three of them carrying my full bottle in plain sight without them even blinking. On another trip I asked one of them that was standing around (again imagine that) if there was a nearby fountain so I didn't have to walk all the back down by the restrooms to fill it. To my surprised he pointed one out that was semi-hidden that I had walked by and missed. Maybe I've just been lucky.
stick something in it that could contaminate it. I would be screaming for a supervisor.
I've never seen them randomly test people's drinks on the sterile side. I have, however, seen a TSO go ballistic on a poor, unsuspecting passenger who had their own water bottle filled during a gate check. Apparently the concept of filling your empty bottle at a water fountain is foreign to them, as they wanted to know how the bottle had made it through security before making the usual "I'll remember you" threat and confiscating the bottle.
For the record, it was a 32 oz. Nalgene. Very nice bottle. Makes you wonder if the TSO was going hiking that weekend.
For the record, it was a 32 oz. Nalgene. Very nice bottle. Makes you wonder if the TSO was going hiking that weekend.
) and walked by three of them carrying my full bottle in plain sight without them even blinking. On another trip I asked one of them that was standing around (again imagine that) if there was a nearby fountain so I didn't have to walk all the back down by the restrooms to fill it. To my surprised he pointed one out that was semi-hidden that I had walked by and missed. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Jun 18, 2012, 12:48 pm
#17
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Just because you say it’s a medicine does not give it a free pass. Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint.
Jun 18, 2012, 1:04 pm
#18
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Our test equipment does not require actually touching the liquid, so there is no reason to put a drop of it anywhere, it can remain in its container.
Just because you say it’s a medicine does not give it a free pass. Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint.
Just because you say it’s a medicine does not give it a free pass. Could be any kind of liquid in the bottle, and “factory seals” can be fakes. Testing is the best option available at the checkpoint.
Jun 18, 2012, 2:26 pm
#19
Join Date: Dec 2008
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ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
Jun 18, 2012, 2:34 pm
#20
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Does anyone in the TSA even have a risk-management background?
Jun 18, 2012, 2:38 pm
#21
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Jun 21, 2012, 9:52 am
#23
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I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
Jun 21, 2012, 9:07 pm
#25
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 1,007
I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
Jun 21, 2012, 9:09 pm
#26
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Northern VA
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I will repeat here what I have already stated: There is no test strip that can detect peroxides in the air above a liquid flask. Methodologically it is simply unavailable (and I state this as a professional).
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
ETD of swabs on the outside of a flask could detect peroxides, but not test strips waved in the air. That is pure security theater.
Jun 29, 2012, 11:39 am
#27
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,195
Such as?
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
Jun 29, 2012, 12:00 pm
#28
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Posts: 239
Such as?
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
Jun 29, 2012, 12:08 pm
#29
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Posts: 2,710
Jun 29, 2012, 12:18 pm
#30
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 593
Such as?
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
Believe what you like, no one here is going to stop you. I have used the strips and can say as a professional that they work just fine. Peroxides are the easiest to detect, some others not so much.
You might want to look over the link. I have used this one several times, its an interesting little device that worked but didn’t quite meet TSA’s needs.
Here is another one that is in use in many airports, read that link as well. Its always nice to have the facts available.
Here are some others:
http://www.plexsci.com/products/dete...ection/dropex/
http://spie.org/x86552.xml
http://www.xplosafe.com/national-security.html
And these are just a few, not a comprehensive list at all.
The proof has been provided for you. Its common technology that utilizes liquid vapors of the different chemicals. You “might” want to rethink your “professional opinion” just a bit and do some more research.
