Naked man arrested at Portland International Airport after disrobing at security
Apr 18, 2012, 2:17 pm
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Unless interested in checking out general passengers' "junk" like the TSA does, you hope they are PreCheck LLL passengers.
Apr 18, 2012, 2:35 pm
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Actually, shame is the exact problem here. As Americans, we're shamed into hating our bodies, shamed into unfailingly revering authority figures, and shamed into mindless compliance with stupid laws or regulations that have nothing to do with public safety.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
Apr 18, 2012, 3:33 pm
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Actually, shame is the exact problem here. As Americans, we're shamed into hating our bodies, shamed into unfailingly revering authority figures, and shamed into mindless compliance with stupid laws or regulations that have nothing to do with public safety.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
While I'm sure much of it is an exaggeration/outright fiction try watching the film "J. Edgar" and you can see how much of that began to change (or at least imagine how that happened).
Apr 18, 2012, 4:33 pm
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Here's an article with a more detailed interview and profile of this guy:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...an_choses.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...an_choses.html
Apr 18, 2012, 4:58 pm
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So intent of sexual arousal is required. Seems kind of hard to show in this case.
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Apr 18, 2012, 5:40 pm
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If it was hard to show isn't that prima facie evidence?
Public nudity is not "constitionally protected" in Oregon: it just isn't against the law by itself. ORS 163.465: "A person commits the crime of public indecency if while in, or in view of, a public place the person performs: ... (c) An act of exposing the genitals of the person with the intent of arousing the sexual desire of the person or another person."
So intent of sexual arousal is required. Seems kind of hard to show in this case.
So intent of sexual arousal is required. Seems kind of hard to show in this case.
Apr 18, 2012, 6:27 pm
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Actually, shame is the exact problem here. As Americans, we're shamed into hating our bodies, shamed into unfailingly revering authority figures, and shamed into mindless compliance with stupid laws or regulations that have nothing to do with public safety.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
Stripping naked at a TSA checkpoint is the perfect protest against all of that and only carries TSA's own procedures to their logical conclusion. More power to him and everyone else who expresses disgust at the Talibanization of our country.
Apr 18, 2012, 6:32 pm
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What are people teching their children?!
That the naked body is a sin and a shame?!
No wonder that people get problems in their life.
Nothing wrong at all. I do support the man to a 100 %.
Just sad that he had to prove a point at an airport to travel.
TSA cant have anything against him.
They want to be sure he is not "hidding " anything.
He proved he is not.
Also I dont think that they do want anybody else to see what they can see.
They just dont want to share.
That the naked body is a sin and a shame?!
No wonder that people get problems in their life.
Nothing wrong at all. I do support the man to a 100 %.
Just sad that he had to prove a point at an airport to travel.
TSA cant have anything against him.
They want to be sure he is not "hidding " anything.
He proved he is not.
Also I dont think that they do want anybody else to see what they can see.
They just dont want to share.
Apr 19, 2012, 9:00 am
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BoingBoing has a (carefully redacted to avoid too much tushie) pic:
http://boingboing.net/2012/04/18/nak...a-screeni.html
http://boingboing.net/2012/04/18/nak...a-screeni.html
Apr 19, 2012, 9:30 am
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BoingBoing has a (carefully redacted to avoid too much tushie) pic:
http://boingboing.net/2012/04/18/nak...a-screeni.html
http://boingboing.net/2012/04/18/nak...a-screeni.html
Apr 19, 2012, 2:13 pm
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Apr 22, 2012, 5:53 pm
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Overheard on CNN.com: Readers cheer efforts of naked TSA protester
CNN has posted an item describing reader reaction to this story. Here's the link:
CNN
Overheard on CNN.com: Readers cheer efforts of naked TSA protester
April 18th, 2012 05:36 PM ET
The article includes this comment:
CNN
Overheard on CNN.com: Readers cheer efforts of naked TSA protester
April 18th, 2012 05:36 PM ET
The article includes this comment:
Clay Pratt: "I am amazed he was arrested in a city they allows a mass public naked bike ride right through it's most congested and populated business districts every year. Portland has no laws against public nudity. They do have laws regarding lewd behavior while nude, though they would not apply to this mans behaviors."
Jul 3, 2012, 4:40 pm
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Trial by jury denied for TSA protester
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...otestor/17147/
Oh well, what do constitutionally protected rights matter anyways?
I am reminded of this bit of poetry somehow:
Does It Matter?
Siegfried Sassoon
Does it matter?—losing your leg? …
For people will always be kind,
And you need not show that you mind
When the others come in after hunting
To gobble their muffins and eggs.
Does it matter?—losing your sight? …
There’s such splendid work for the blind;
And people will always be kind,
As you sit on the terrace remembering
And turning your face to the light.
Do they matter?—those dreams from the pit? …
You can drink and forget and be glad,
And people won’t say that you’re mad;
For they’ll know that you’ve fought for your country,
And no one will worry a bit.
Online text © 1998-2012 Poetry X. All rights reserved.
Oh well, what do constitutionally protected rights matter anyways?
I am reminded of this bit of poetry somehow:
Does It Matter?
Siegfried Sassoon
Does it matter?—losing your leg? …
For people will always be kind,
And you need not show that you mind
When the others come in after hunting
To gobble their muffins and eggs.
Does it matter?—losing your sight? …
There’s such splendid work for the blind;
And people will always be kind,
As you sit on the terrace remembering
And turning your face to the light.
Do they matter?—those dreams from the pit? …
You can drink and forget and be glad,
And people won’t say that you’re mad;
For they’ll know that you’ve fought for your country,
And no one will worry a bit.
Online text © 1998-2012 Poetry X. All rights reserved.
Jul 3, 2012, 5:56 pm
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The constitutionally-protected right in question here will be one's right to protest and whether he went beyond what is constitutionally-protected "speech" by stripping naked in the airport. Few (if any) jurisdictions will grant a jury trial for a violation (or whatever they specifically call it there). I have to say, I found the article more than a little biased. It states that there are three constitutional rights that aren't granted those charged with a violation but it fails to mention the reason for this: a violation has substantially lesser penalties attached (probably no chance of jail time, nor large fines vs a misdemeanor which can carry up to a year in jail). The author makes it sound as though the DA decided to prosecute this as a violation in an effort to screw him out of a jury trial, rather than to ensure this guys doesn't end up with a misdemeanor conviction on his record (or something in the middle).