mikemey

What color is the sky in your world?

The TSA doesn't fit the definition of Patriot EVER.

Fornebufox

A preview of the end of month announcements?

Himeno

TSA is not a person therefore the TSA cannot be a patriot.
A TSA employee may be a patriot because they believe that the TSA, and thus their job, fulfils the definition of ‘patriot’.

However as the TSA does not do anything in the interests of the US or its people, those employees would be wrong in their belief.

You may think you are a patriot because you feel the TSA is patriotic. Though, as the vast majority of people who encounter the TSA will know, the TSA is not patriotic. As such, you are not a patriot.

PhoenixRev

Perhaps you should educate yourself on how a dictionary works because one definition is does not "trump" another. Definitions are listed either a) by most common usage to least common usage or b) in historical order of usage which is why one dictionary may have definitions in one order and another may have them in a different order.

Regardless, please inform us of exactly when being a patriot meant feeling up 80-year-old grandmothers and looking at scans of 5-year-old boys genitals.

Combat Medic

Prove it.

2089x5449

IANAL, but it may be quite relevant. In order to lawfully infringe upon a fundamental right--such as the right to privacy--a government action must meet three conditions:

1. It must advance an important governmental interest,

2. the intrusion must significantly further that interest, and

3. the intrusion must be necessary to further that interest.

If the WBI really contributes so little to airline safety that you can write off its results as irrelevant, then it does not significantly further any governmental interest. That makes them unconstitutional. No American should be punished for disobeying an unconstitutional law or order. They should be awarded a Medal of Freedom by the President.

Lest the government or its agents play the national security card, it should be remembered that judicial deference to national security only goes so far. The Department of Defense recently learned that the Courts will not uphold intrusive, pointless laws. The Department of Homeland Security will eventually learn this lesson, too.

erictank

And you have the unmitigated gall to call anyone ELSE'S use of the word "sickening"...

Good thing that dictionaries don't actually work the way you'd seem to like them to, I guess.

Carnage

So let me get this correct in my mind.

Person needs access to secure area of airport for work.
Person refuses to undergo the required level of screening.
Person refused access to secure area.
Person goes home.
Person suspended.
Person posts on internet
Profit?

Boggie Dog

What profit?

This Patriot may have just taken the first step in a long legal challenge.

halls120

DHS plays the "national security" card continuously inside the beltway, and it is rarely backed up by credible evidence of a demonstrable threat.

doober

Persons are capable of thoughts, some of them logical. Your statement above does NOT meet that adjective.

The TSA is an organization, an entity, made up of individuals who apparently are incapable of doing anything logical.

An organization or entity cannot be a patriot, only an individual can strive to be called a patriot.

Michael Roberts has achieved such stature.

flapping arms

Ask and you shall receive.

From Aviation Reference Desk:

Mailing address for ExpressJet:

EXPRESSJET AIRLINES, INC.
700 NORTH SAM HOUSTON PARKWAY WEST
SUITE 200 HOUSTON, TX 77067 US

Chief Pilot:

SEMAK, GEORGE L.
SENIOR DIRECTOR, FLIGHT OPERATIONS


Standard advisories on grass-roots efforts apply.

My $.05 to the OP: Thank you both for standing up for your rights, and for accepting the cost of civil disobedience. It's expensive for the first few, but it takes those first few to start a movement.

airmotive

Using that logic NO ONE should be allowed in the cockpit....ever.

Actually, no one should ever be allowed airside...including TSA employees.....ever.

IslandBased

The barkers at TSA could care less about privacy, honor or respect. To them, civil disobedience is just taken personally as disrespect.

flapping arms

I fear you're right. The target audience for civil disobedience, though, are members of Congress, who (1) have authority over DHS and TSA, and (2) don't want to get voted out of office by ignoring their constituents.

Hmm. Maybe if the FTers all wrote their Senators & Reps about this incident and encouraged more Congressional oversight and control of TSA......