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Whether you agree with it or not, this is exactly how it works with Amex and Capital One. If an eligible rate inclusive of additional benefits is available, that’s all you’ll see. You are not given a choice of whether to accept the benefit or not. |
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I haven't seen any data points of someone not receiving EQNs and points on stays that specifically say they're eligible. On the contrary, I've seen at least a dozen data points on r/Marriott and r/ChaseSapphire confirming that people have successfully received the EQNs and points they were supposed to get. |
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They won’t be getting many signups with that. As a reminder, I am only comparing the rates Chase is offering. Not “anyone else”. I obviously assume there are lower rates out there via other channels. This is a “Chase vs. Chase” issue. |
Bellagio - Las Vegas Edit hotel stay (Nov 16 - 18) .
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I didn't book it.... but yes I have blown about 500,000 points since the announcement, only 6.78M to go in the next 23 months |
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Please make your point once. Repetition does not make an argument stronger. The purpose of a Flyertalk thread is to exchange information and ideas, not to persuade another member to change their mind.
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I do think our choice of language around this matters.
Some of you are not finding good value in the credit or The Edit program in general. I wish you were, but calling it things like a “scam” seems to be excessive and uncalled for. Using language like that cheapens the word “scam” and others like it which isn’t great in a time where we all need to be educated and vigilant about the many true scams and frauds out there. Not every benefit and credit is for every person and neither is every type of accommodation from roadside motel rooms all the way up to penthouse suites at the Four Seasons. Just because it isn’t for you doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for others. |
If you like Fairmont, I'm finding some decent value there.
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So overall I don't consider this as a $200 offset to the increase AF, but granted, perhaps not completely worthless |
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They sell the value of the Reserve card as a version of getting an elite status perk for a hefty annual fee. That is absolutely how most consumers view that benefit. We are not talking about different purchase channels here, this is all under Chase’s roof and they are feeding you different rates based on your “status”, which of course conveys certain benefits just like a hotel’s elite program does. Marriott does not sell you a “Titanium” rate vs a “Silver” rate. If you have an expectation that this is okay, then you need to raise your standards. It is absolutely not okay. They are “baiting” you with an $800 annual fee to get elite benefits, and they are “switching” it by charging you extra for those benefits in the rate. |
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Price discrimination is common place even if you don't like it. |
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