I don’t know why anyone should assume Chase or anyone will offer you the lowest price. You should always do your own comparison shopping and make your own decision.

Whether you agree with it or not, this is exactly how it works with Amex and Capital One. If an eligible rate inclusive of additional benefits is available, that’s all you’ll see. You are not given a choice of whether to accept the benefit or not.

They should get both, since the property says "Marriott Bonvoy Eligible": 8x UR points and 17.5x MR points.

I haven't seen any data points of someone not receiving EQNs and points on stays that specifically say they're eligible. On the contrary, I've seen at least a dozen data points on r/Marriott and r/ChaseSapphire confirming that people have successfully received the EQNs and points they were supposed to get.

Hmmm, 2 of us saw $391/night (exact same price) earlier today and now you see it drops to $485/night and you are okay with that? You DO have too many points!

New Chase Reserve advertising slogan: “Book with us. We’ll charge you a $200 surcharge to get $200 in benefits for your stay, all for only an $800 annual fee.”

They won’t be getting many signups with that.

As a reminder, I am only comparing the rates Chase is offering. Not “anyone else”. I obviously assume there are lower rates out there via other channels. This is a “Chase vs. Chase” issue.

Bellagio - Las Vegas Edit hotel stay (Nov 16 - 18) .

• No resort fee charged.
• Daily breakfast covered - $60 for 2. Rest charged on your CC.
• Upgraded to strip view room and got early check in and late checkout till 1 pm
• Got $100 dining credit

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Do the buffet one night!

LOL, it wasn't that I was ok with it. I called Chase and they are having issues with some foreign hotels and the currency conversions, just an FYI.
I didn't book it.... but yes I have blown about 500,000 points since the announcement, only 6.78M to go in the next 23 months

Does any company advertise that? You are setting an unrealistic expectation

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Please make your point once. Repetition does not make an argument stronger. The purpose of a Flyertalk thread is to exchange information and ideas, not to persuade another member to change their mind.

I do think our choice of language around this matters.

Some of you are not finding good value in the credit or The Edit program in general. I wish you were, but calling it things like a “scam” seems to be excessive and uncalled for. Using language like that cheapens the word “scam” and others like it which isn’t great in a time where we all need to be educated and vigilant about the many true scams and frauds out there.

Not every benefit and credit is for every person and neither is every type of accommodation from roadside motel rooms all the way up to penthouse suites at the Four Seasons. Just because it isn’t for you doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for others.

If you like Fairmont, I'm finding some decent value there.

Fair enough. "scam" is probably too strong. How about

• Ripoff (since some of us are finding the rates so much higher than booking direct so as to offset the credit)
• Worthless (since some us don't normally stay at hotels in the $500-$1500 per night range)
• Disappointing
• Worse than Amex FHR/THC
• Annoying compared to booking direct (requires me to login to my Bank account using 2FA and logs me out quickly when idled)
• Useless perks (since many of us have elite status that already provides free breakfast)

I just booked an upcoming stay using The Edit - it saves me $0 but basically allows me to stay at the rather pathetic Monica Lewinsky Ritz for the same price as a Westin, Hilton or Renaissance. The redemption value on the points boost was acceptable, though I would normally not use Chase UR for this purpose.

So overall I don't consider this as a $200 offset to the increase AF, but granted, perhaps not completely worthless

I've said my piece on this and will agree to disagree on some (but not all.. some I agree with) of those points. After all, as mia pointed out, we're not here to change opinions (and likely won't in any case).

So you think it would be above board if Marriott charged you different rates based on your status level? For a Titanium this room is $300 but if you have no status it’s $250? That is the equivalent to what Chase is doing here.

They sell the value of the Reserve card as a version of getting an elite status perk for a hefty annual fee. That is absolutely how most consumers view that benefit.

We are not talking about different purchase channels here, this is all under Chase’s roof and they are feeding you different rates based on your “status”, which of course conveys certain benefits just like a hotel’s elite program does. Marriott does not sell you a “Titanium” rate vs a “Silver” rate.

If you have an expectation that this is okay, then you need to raise your standards. It is absolutely not okay. They are “baiting” you with an $800 annual fee to get elite benefits, and they are “switching” it by charging you extra for those benefits in the rate.

The expectation I have is that no company will voluntarily offer me the cheapest product nor will they be pricing something to my advantage. I will shop around (whether it’s credit card or travel experiences) to find the best fit me for.

Price discrimination is common place even if you don't like it.