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diesteldorf Dec 10, 2025 11:14 am


Originally Posted by pvrMM3 (Post 37473453)
Chase has implemented a minimum price point formula for hotels to be included, actually the formula equates out to how much commission they will get off the booking vs. what it will cost them to pay the hotel for the extra benefits. I just learned on this working with clients on Monday, that own a large number of Hotels in the Marriott, Hyatt, and Hilton franchise systems (I know Hilton's are not part of it). This is far different than the 2 hotel programs Amex offers its clients. For example you could stay at a Hilton family hotel that is pretty equal compared to the JW Marriott (both 5 stars, amenities, finish, etc.) just down the street, The Conrad is part of the Amex program at sub $250 USD per night, but you can't get anything in the Marriott Family unless it hits $450 or more per night.... During high demand that JW Marriott when a normal room is $844 USD per night, it's available through the Edit, but when it's $228/nigh it's not. This program is not very often a real benefit from what I can see and gather. Also point redemptions have always worked out from credit card spend to be better with the Bonvoy Card than CSR points, generally 5 to 20% better, and I have searched over 50 potential bookings.

Thanks for sharing.....extremely interesting. I don't have the CSR, and I know you said Hilton is not a part of it......curious if there are even many Hiltons listed on THE EDIT.

I was pleased to stay 2 nights in Minneapolis for $22 (after the Amex $300 credit) and 2 nights in Chicago for $165 (after the old $200 credit) and had plenty of good food, but curious how it works out for Amex, Hilton, and the hotels.....earned points on both stays....so you could almost say I made money on the MSP stay, after the points posted.

atcanobbio Dec 10, 2025 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by pvrMM3 (Post 37473453)
Chase has implemented a minimum price point formula for hotels to be included, actually the formula equates out to how much commission they will get off the booking vs. what it will cost them to pay the hotel for the extra benefits. I just learned on this working with clients on Monday, that own a large number of Hotels in the Marriott, Hyatt, and Hilton franchise systems (I know Hilton's are not part of it). This is far different than the 2 hotel programs Amex offers its clients. For example you could stay at a Hilton family hotel that is pretty equal compared to the JW Marriott (both 5 stars, amenities, finish, etc.) just down the street, The Conrad is part of the Amex program at sub $250 USD per night, but you can't get anything in the Marriott Family unless it hits $450 or more per night.... During high demand that JW Marriott when a normal room is $844 USD per night, it's available through the Edit, but when it's $228/nigh it's not. This program is not very often a real benefit from what I can see and gather. Also point redemptions have always worked out from credit card spend to be better with the Bonvoy Card than CSR points, generally 5 to 20% better, and I have searched over 50 potential bookings.

very interesting. After much looking around at different properties and comparing the data to my friend who has AMEX FHR, I, 1000%, agree that the Edit Hotels benefit is not what is touted. This combined with (what seems) the airline points boost scale back, this CSR refresh is not that great, imo.

Alinsfca Dec 10, 2025 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by atcanobbio (Post 37474904)
very interesting. After much looking around at different properties and comparing the data to my friend who has AMEX FHR, I, 1000%, agree that the Edit Hotels benefit is not what is touted. This combined with (what seems) the airline points boost scale back, this CSR refresh is not that great, imo.

Totally agreed. I have been playing around the Edit with my travel pattern and there are only a very limited number of hotels on the Edit that will add value to me..

pvrMM3 Dec 11, 2025 8:16 am


Originally Posted by diesteldorf (Post 37474489)
Thanks for sharing.....extremely interesting. I don't have the CSR, and I know you said Hilton is not a part of it......curious if there are even many Hiltons listed on THE EDIT.

I was pleased to stay 2 nights in Minneapolis for $22 (after the Amex $300 credit) and 2 nights in Chicago for $165 (after the old $200 credit) and had plenty of good food, but curious how it works out for Amex, Hilton, and the hotels.....earned points on both stays....so you could almost say I made money on the MSP stay, after the points posted.

Zero Hilton Hotels are in the Edit program right now, they originally had a few, then they were dropped. The key difference is from American Express's perspective is that a hotel qualifies for the program or it doesn't. So when demand is low and prices drop the hotel is still part of the program, while the hotels in the Edit will change based on the pricing and commission structure, and it seems to be more price related than the quality of the property to be part of it.

mahasamatman Dec 11, 2025 10:00 am


Originally Posted by Alinsfca (Post 37475111)
there are only a very limited number of hotels on the Edit that will add value to me..

All you need is two per year.

Alinsfca Dec 11, 2025 10:08 am


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 37476328)
All you need is two per year.

I am not sure what is the point of your response. I understand the terms and I have done my homework. You don't know my travel pattern.

SoFlaFlyer737 Dec 11, 2025 10:26 am

Unhappy with The Edit Reservation
 
Hello, I made a reservation for a hotel in May, using Chase points on a "The Edit" hotel property. Fortunately, I thought, I could cancel without penalty till 7 May.

When I reviewed the reservation, I saw it was a king bed and I waned 2 queens,

I called the property first and was told there was no availability for 2 beds for the 2 days I booked, nor for the following nights. They told me there were "suites" available at a higher cost, but that I needed to call Chase.

I spoke to 3 people at Chase due to numerous transfers (call took over a half an hour). At the end of the call, when I said I wanted to cancel, I was told REDEPOSITED POINTS WOULD BE ONLY USABLE AT 1:1 rate, rather than 1.5:1 (pre--October 26, 2025 level).

I told them not to cancel, I'll probably need to escalate this issue. Has anyone encountered this problrem?

mahasamatman Dec 11, 2025 11:16 am


Originally Posted by Alinsfca (Post 37476346)
I am not sure what is the point of your response.

The point is that you only need enough hotels to fulfill the requirements, so even a "limited number" can be sufficient.

mahasamatman Dec 11, 2025 11:19 am


Originally Posted by SoFlaFlyer737 (Post 37476378)
I was told REDEPOSITED POINTS WOULD BE ONLY USABLE AT 1:1 rate, rather than 1.5:1 (pre--October 26, 2025 level).

Reports in this thread indicate otherwise.

Boraxo Dec 11, 2025 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by Alinsfca (Post 37476346)
I am not sure what is the point of your response. I understand the terms and I have done my homework. You don't know my travel pattern.

Exactly. So far I'm finding zero per year without extraordinary effort. And my travel to the few luxury properties that might work does not fall neatly into semi-annual boxes. To be fair I have similar issues with Amex but at least they have 10x more properties, don't require 2 night stay (at least for THC) and I can use anytime during the year.

jdsva Dec 11, 2025 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 37476693)
Exactly. So far I'm finding zero per year without extraordinary effort. And my travel to the few luxury properties that might work does not fall neatly into semi-annual boxes. To be fair I have similar issues with Amex but at least they have 10x more properties, don't require 2 night stay (at least for THC) and I can use anytime during the year.

Pretty sure THC is a two night stay requirement for the credit. FHR only requires a single night.

Chase changed The Edit credit to be twice per year, anytime, not semi-annual anymore.

Likely won’t change your opinion, just making sure the correct info is out there for others.


Alinsfca Dec 11, 2025 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 37476459)
The point is that you only need enough hotels to fulfill the requirements, so even a "limited number" can be sufficient.

So you are assuming that I don't know that? You have your travel pattern and I have mine. You have nothing to add to my comment and should have stayed away from it. This is a very unproductive conversation and I am not interested in engaging further.

mahasamatman Dec 11, 2025 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by Alinsfca (Post 37476984)
So you are assuming that I don't know that?

Based on your complaint, yes.

friedablass Dec 11, 2025 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by pvrMM3 (Post 37473453)
Chase has implemented a minimum price point formula for hotels to be included,....

Is the minimum price per night uniform across all Edit properties or is it specific to each property and when that property drops below that minimum they're no longer offered as an Edit property? I've seen Edit hotels in Vegas that were under $200 a night and in Orlando under $300 a night so I'm wondering how the minimum price point is determined and applied.

pvrMM3 Dec 12, 2025 4:55 am


Originally Posted by friedablass (Post 37477295)
Is the minimum price per night uniform across all Edit properties or is it specific to each property and when that property drops below that minimum they're no longer offered as an Edit property? I've seen Edit hotels in Vegas that were under $200 a night and in Orlando under $300 a night so I'm wondering how the minimum price point is determined and applied.

It's not just the single price of the hotel according to my clients, they are asked if they want to be part of the program, and Chase has set a threshold basically on what the commissions are vs. the chargebacks against the hotel for those extra benefits, and it varies by property as to what they are charging. So if a hotel agrees to give all the extras for free (which some do, hoping that will draw in more customers or bigger spenders, etc...) then their threshold would be lower than say the St. Regis saying they will charge $80 for the 4pm late checkout if it is taken advantage of. Places that opt to give away all of the benefits will be seen while at much lower price points, or the ones that are going to charge Chase for the space available upgrade at a certain amount of money as well. It works something like this formula (I don't know the exact formula, I just know the general structure. Room Cost x room commission rate - extra property benefit costs including onsite credit (which may be paid jointly or solely by chase), cost of breakfast (at negotiated rate for that property, room upgrade charges (negotiated costs with property), early/late checkin fees (negotiated with property), and these can vary widely from region to region or hotel to hotel, with some hotels giving it all to chase just to be part of the program, and others charging Chase for everything extra.

Based on what you are saying about the hotels in Vegas and Orlando, those properties are probably giving Chase all of those extras just to be part of the program. A sign to me that they are looking for more business, than other properties than are going to bill back what ever amount the onsite credit is used to Chase, charge $40 for everyone they end up upgrading, and charge $10/person or more for breakfast back to Chase.


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