Jan 8, 2022, 5:58 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
The Ritz-Carlton Rewards VISA Infinite card was closed for applications in July 2018. The only way to obtain the Ritz card now is to Product Change from a Chase Bonvoy Bountiful or Boundless card, which must be open for a full year to be eligible for Product Change. Upgrades from free Chase Bonvoy Bold will not succeed UNLESS (a) the Bold card was obtained as a downgrade from another Chase Bonvoy card, (b) Or if you convert Bold to Boundless or Bountiful before switching once more to Ritz-Carlton within a few days of the product change (reports here)
Previous thread is here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...16-2021-a.html
Ritz card information still available on the Chase SITE.
Feature Summary:
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
AS upgrades from coach to premium coach or first work.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
Previous thread is here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...16-2021-a.html
Ritz card information still available on the Chase SITE.
Feature Summary:
- Annual fee of $450 NOT waived.
- 6 Marriott points per dollar at Marriott properties, including former Starwood and Ritz-Carltons.
- 3 Marriott points per dollar at restaurants, car rental companies and airline tickets purchased directly from airlines
- 2 Marriott points per dollar on all other purchases (same as all Chase & AmEx Marriott cards)
- Annual (anniversary) free night award good at any Marriott (including Ritz) property up to 85,000 MRs.
- Automatic Marriott Gold Status.
- Marriott Platinum Status after $75,000 card spending in a card-member year.
- $100 statement credit for Global Entry after the Global Entry program application fee is charged to an eligible card.
- $300 Annual (calendar) Travel Credit "Only the following types of non-ticket purchases qualify for this offer: airline lounge day pass, or towards a yearly lounge membership of your choice; airline seat upgrades; airline baggage fees; in-flight Internet/entertainment; in-flight meals." This does not happen automatically. It must be requested by phone or by private message.
- Three (3) Ritz Carlton Club Level upgrade certificates each year for up to 7 nights each stay. The stays must be paid stays, excluding point redemption and award night. Use code Z34 to check for price; Z38 is club upgrade code and can only be booked by phone
- Troon Rewards and PRIV ACCESS golf benefits
- $100 credit for qualifying dining, spa or other hotel recreational activities. Use the credit with any paid stay at The Ritz-Carlton of two nights or more OR get a $100 hotel credit per stay at all Marriott luxury properties. Advance reservations are required. Valid only on non-discounted rates. Cannot be combined with any packages, discounts, negotiated corporate or group rates or point-redemption bookings.
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
AS upgrades from coach to premium coach or first work.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
Ritz-Carlton VISA Infinite. Available by PC from Bountiful/Boundless. Refreshed 09.22
Oct 14, 2022, 10:44 am
#271
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MSP
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, UA Silver, Hertz 5*
Posts: 913
So word of warning for anyone thinking on upgrading. If you're close to the account anniversary of your existing card, no matter what the rep tells you, definitely consider waiting for the annual night certificate (the 35k certificate on the Boundless) to post on your outgoing card before upgrading!
I called to ask about upgrading from the Boundless to the Ritz card, and was told by the rep that I would be getting a complete refund on the $95 AF. I know a few folks mentioned a partial refund of the remaining Annual Fee, but with only a few months left until my anniversary date, this was what sealed the deal to upgrade right away. But of course, after all was said and done, I was only refunded a prorated amount of the annual fee. I called and despite escalating to an Account Supervisor, the only thing they could do was help me submit a complaint on my behalf. I hope they pull the tape of my conversation, but sadly, I guess this is a good example of how it doesn't seem companies or their representatives are legally bound by what they say.
The supervisor did offer to downgrade me again but with an upcoming trip, it seems to rushed to deal with a downgrade and upgrade again in a few months - who knows if the original 35k ANC would show up on the original anniversary...
I called to ask about upgrading from the Boundless to the Ritz card, and was told by the rep that I would be getting a complete refund on the $95 AF. I know a few folks mentioned a partial refund of the remaining Annual Fee, but with only a few months left until my anniversary date, this was what sealed the deal to upgrade right away. But of course, after all was said and done, I was only refunded a prorated amount of the annual fee. I called and despite escalating to an Account Supervisor, the only thing they could do was help me submit a complaint on my behalf. I hope they pull the tape of my conversation, but sadly, I guess this is a good example of how it doesn't seem companies or their representatives are legally bound by what they say.
The supervisor did offer to downgrade me again but with an upcoming trip, it seems to rushed to deal with a downgrade and upgrade again in a few months - who knows if the original 35k ANC would show up on the original anniversary...
Based on my understanding of the various data points that people have shared, I'd think the best time to upgrade from Boundless to Ritz would be probably the month before your anniversary so that you get the 85K cert immediately and not have to wait for many months to get the cert.
Oct 14, 2022, 10:52 am
#272
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 18
Yes, agree about what's fair and what isn't, though no, because the annual free night posts at the *end* of the card anniversary, I have not received it or taken advantage of it for neither the outgoing card or the new card. In any case, you'd think what's actually offered when you sign on is legally binding and takes precedent. Laws and regulations 101.
Oct 14, 2022, 12:47 pm
#273
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,357
This depends on your individual history of opening Marriott cards at both American Express and Marriott.
My reading is that you cannot open Boundless while you hold Bold -and- if you close Bold you are not eligible to open Boundless until 24 months after you received the Bold bonus.
My reading is that you cannot open Boundless while you hold Bold -and- if you close Bold you are not eligible to open Boundless until 24 months after you received the Bold bonus.
Oct 14, 2022, 1:01 pm
#274
Flyertalk Posting Legend Moderator: Credit Card Programs, American Express, Capital One, Chase, Citi, Diners Club, Signatures.
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA & Marriott Perpetual Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 49,019
Oct 14, 2022, 3:39 pm
#275
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MSP
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, UA Silver, Hertz 5*
Posts: 913
Actually no. When you originally signed up for the card you received a (typically) large sign-on bonus and you paid the annual fee. In my case, I signed up for the original Marriott card in 2007 and my sign-on bonus was 25K points.
On your first year anniversary, you are billed the renewal fee (currently $95) and in return Chase gives you a free night cert valued at up to 35K. In other words, if you have never changed your product then you would not have paid for the free night certificate.
It sounds like you are still in your first year of card membership if you have never received a free night award as yet. If this is not your first year of having the card and you did not in fact receive a free night cert at your last anniversary, then you should take a closer look at your account and work with Chase & Marriott to see what the issue is.
You will receive the free night corresponding to the product you hold at your next anniversary. (Bold = Nothing, Boundless = 35K, Ritz = 85K)
On your first year anniversary, you are billed the renewal fee (currently $95) and in return Chase gives you a free night cert valued at up to 35K. In other words, if you have never changed your product then you would not have paid for the free night certificate.
You will receive the free night corresponding to the product you hold at your next anniversary. (Bold = Nothing, Boundless = 35K, Ritz = 85K)
Oct 17, 2022, 11:55 am
#276
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 81
Bold to RC
Oct 19, 2022, 9:40 am
#277
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 4
Has anybody other than yugi upgraded a card twice in succession? I current hold the Marriott Bold and would like to upgrade to the Ritz Carlton card. I have been unable to upgrade directly from the Bold to the Ritz. The only upgrade path I've been given is to the Bountiful. I believe with the introduction of the Bountiful, they have closed the direct upgrade path from the Bold.
My question is, will I be able to upgrade to the Bountiful and after a couple weeks, upgrade to the Ritz Card? Has anybody had any luck upgrading a card twice without waiting a year after the first upgrade?
My question is, will I be able to upgrade to the Bountiful and after a couple weeks, upgrade to the Ritz Card? Has anybody had any luck upgrading a card twice without waiting a year after the first upgrade?
Oct 20, 2022, 1:01 pm
#278
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: TYS/BNA/ATL
Programs: UR, TYP, MR, C1, AA, UA, WN, BA, AS, AV, AC, Choice, Hyatt, IHG, Hilton, Wyndham, Marriott
Posts: 1,988
Has anybody other than yugi upgraded a card twice in succession? I current hold the Marriott Bold and would like to upgrade to the Ritz Carlton card. I have been unable to upgrade directly from the Bold to the Ritz. The only upgrade path I've been given is to the Bountiful. I believe with the introduction of the Bountiful, they have closed the direct upgrade path from the Bold.
My question is, will I be able to upgrade to the Bountiful and after a couple weeks, upgrade to the Ritz Card? Has anybody had any luck upgrading a card twice without waiting a year after the first upgrade?
My question is, will I be able to upgrade to the Bountiful and after a couple weeks, upgrade to the Ritz Card? Has anybody had any luck upgrading a card twice without waiting a year after the first upgrade?
Oct 20, 2022, 1:05 pm
#279
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 4
Oct 26, 2022, 10:55 am
#280
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 4,868
I have all of these:
Marriott Bonvoy Bold Visa from Chase (acquired May 2021)
Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express Card (acquired as SPG)
Marriott Bonvoy Business Amex Card (acquired as SPG)
Marriott Bonvoy Business Visa from Chase (acquired July 2018)
I don't think I can apply for any of the cards and get the SUB at this point. What am I misreading.
Nov 22, 2022, 11:03 am
#283
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 2
Thanks for posting the interesting DP. I have been trying to almost 5 times PC to Ritz from Bold for past weeks and the reps only see option to change to "Bountiful". I applied directly with BOLD card, seems like the algorithm could be looking at the product applied at first.
Nov 22, 2022, 1:42 pm
#284
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: NYC/PHX
Programs: IATA, Sabre, AvgeekAgent
Posts: 1,960
Hopefully this is a stupid question, but there's no risk waiting until early next year to deal with 2022 airline charges to max out the 2022 credit, right (i.e., we don't have to request the credit in the same calendar year as the charge)?