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This thread--a continuation of previous discussions through May 2015 and December 2016--focuses on general Chase policies & practices for new applications. For information on specific Chase cards and their bonuses/terms/benefits, see the following threads and their associated wikis: Table of Contents
  1. Does Chase have a limit on the number or frequency of applications like Citi's 8/65 rule?

  2. What's this I hear about Chase denying applications to people who have recently opened a lot of credit cards?

  3. Does the 5/24 rule apply to applications for all Chase cards?

  4. How does Chase calculate the number of an applicant's new cards for purposes of the 5/24 rule?

  5. How does Chase calculate the relevant 24-month period? By calendar months? By exact days?

  6. Can I get around the 5/24 policy by closing cards I've opened in the past 24 months?

  7. Is there any way around the 5/24 policy (targeted mailers, pre-approvals, Chase Private Client status)?

  8. Can I apply for a specific Chase card and earn the bonus again after doing so previously?

  9. I'm an authorized user for a card issued to my spouse/parent. Does that prevent me from signing up for the same card and earning a bonus?

  10. I already have several Chase cards with a substantial aggregate line of credit. Will it improve my odds if I close an existing account (or lower its credit line) before applying for another?

  11. I wasn't auto-approved. Should I call in?

  12. How can I determine the deadline for meeting the spend requirement to earn the signup bonus?

  13. Once I meet the card's spend requirement, how soon will I receive my signup bonus points?

  14. Should I downgrade or cancel my existing cards before applying?

  15. Useful Chase telephone numbers

Does Chase have a limit on the number or frequency of applications like Citi's 8/65 rule?
Chase does not have a known limit. However, several reports (for example) indicate that Chase is highly sensitive to multiple applications within a short time period, and that the second (or subsequent) applications run a substantial risk of being denied. In many cases, this is likely related to Chase's practice of allocating a large credit line (up to an applicant's personal maximum) when approving a new card such as the first application in a series. (See also the discussion below concerning aggregate Chase credit lines.)

What's this I hear about Chase denying applications to people who have recently opened a lot of credit cards?
Starting in May 2015, Chase began denying applications for its own personal cards (e.g., Sapphire Preferred, Freedom, Slate & Freedom Unlimited) if the applicant's credit report shows that she or he opened 5 or more credit cards with any card issuer in the prior 24 months ("the 5/24 rule").

For a few days in early September 2016, Chase included explicit language ("You will not be approved for this card if you have opened 5 or more bank cards in the past 24 months") on the application page for the Sapphire Reserve card--and then promptly removed it. The absence of this language on landing/application pages for the CSR or any other Chase card is not a reliable indicator of whether the 5/24 policy applies.

See the next section for co-branded cards exempt from the 5/24 policy, and the later section discussing potential ways around 5/24.

Does the 5/24 rule apply to applications for all Chase cards?
Previously the rule did not apply to applications for the Ink Plus business card or to co-branded cards such as United, Hyatt, IHG, etc. However, on May 22, 2016 Chase extended its 5/24 rule to cover Ink business cards and some co-branded cards. (Note that there were premature reports that Chase Ink Plus would be made subject to the rule in March 2016 (which did not happen), and that all co-branded cards would follow in April 2016 (also did not happen).)

Although we had numerous reports of applications prior to May 22 being denied for a United/Hyatt/IHG/WN card by a CSR citing the 5/24 rule, the available evidence strongly suggested that those applicants had other serious issues--multiple Chase applications in a short period; large existing Chase credit line--and that overzealous CSRs gratuitously (and erroneously) invoked the 5/24 rule in the past as an additional supposed justification for the denial. Thus, it is difficult to separate such false positives from any change in Chase policy.

Instead, the most useful data points are those where an applicant is approved for a Chase card despite being over 5/24. Since May 22, 2016, we have such reports for these co-branded cards (in order from oldest to newest for each card):
For a longer list of cards apparently not subject to 5/24, check this link:
In November 2018, Chase seems to have possibly expanded 5/24 to more cards, possibly including some mentioned above. See this link:
Please follow discussion in the thread for current updates.

How does Chase calculate the number of an applicant's new cards for purposes of the 5/24 rule?
The 24-month count includes personal cards opened at other banks, and even cards on which the applicant is only an authorized user and not the primary cardholder. Chase has been extremely inflexible with this policy, with agents stating that there is nothing they can do to circumvent this restriction. However, in some cases Chase may reconsider a denial if the applicant has <5 new cards excluding cards on which s/he is an authorized user. You may need to escalate to the next level of customer service agent, as many front-line agents seem to be unable or unwilling to remove the authorized user accounts from the count.

Note:

How does Chase calculate the relevant 24-month period? By calendar months? By exact days?
In February 2017, a FTer reported a successful application a day or two after dropping from 5/24 to 4/24. However, because Chase sometimes approves applicants who are at 5/24 exactly (see above), this data point does not conclusively prove that Chase drops cards from its calculation on the exact 24-month anniversary of the previous bonus.

Can I get around the 5/24 policy by closing cards I've opened in the past 24 months?
No. Chase uses the information from your credit report, and closing an account doesn't make it disappear.

Is there any way around the 5/24 policy (targeted mailers, pre-approvals, Chase Private Client status)?
As to targeted mailers, we have insufficient anecdotal evidence to reach any reliable conclusions. (Reports suggesting no exemption from 5/24 here and here.)

There have been reports of people with more than 5 cards opened in the last 24 months being successful if they are already pre-approved for the card in question. To find out if you are pre-approved, you can call or go into a branch to ask. Success stories appear to be connected to Chase Private Client (CPC) status and the rollout of the Chase Sapphire Reserve card. In-branch pre-approvals (showing a green screen on the banker's computer) result in automatic approvals. Some (but not all) CPC clients had success in recon calls[[I]citation needed].

Can I apply for a specific Chase card and earn the bonus again after doing so previously?
It depends. A Chase card may be "churned" when an entirely new version becomes available. For example, business cards are distinct from personal/consumer cards. Note that simple variations among bonus offers do not amount to new versions/products for purposes of this rule.

Beginning in 2014, Chase began including explicit language in most of its offers, such as the following:
This new cardmember bonus offer is not available to either (i) current cardmembers of this consumer credit card, or (ii) previous cardmembers of this consumer credit card who received a new cardmember bonus for this consumer credit card within the last 24 months.
Effective August 2018, Chase imposed stringent additional restrictions on receiving the signup bonus for any version of the Sapphire card. See Sapphire (CSR & CSP) 48 months between bonuses, August 2018 and the master threads for each card (listed above) for details and discussion.

There are four key considerations in determining whether you can churn a given card:
  • The 5/24 policy discussed in detail above.
  • The 24-month bonus waiting period--in the case of Sapphire cards, the collective 48-month period--is measured not from the date of your previous application (or approval date, if different), but instead from the date you received the signup-related bonus on the previous card, which may be 3-4 months later than the approval date. The same rule applies regardless of the type of signup bonus received (points, miles, or free-night certs); anniversary benefits unrelated to spending requirements, such as annual IHG & Marriott certs, do not count as signup bonuses.
  • If you still have your old card of the same type, you're ineligible.
  • Chase's policy does not indicate whether there is also a minimum waiting period between cancellation and reapplication, and there is not yet sufficient anecdotal evidence from FTers to draw firm conclusions. At a minimum, a prudent churner will wait at least a week or two after cancellation before reapplying so that all of Chase's systems fully reflect that closure. (See first bullet point above.) At least one FTer has reported re-applying successfully 14 days after canceling the previous card.
Finally, note that if you reapply too soon, Chase may still issue you the new card. (This differs from some other card issuers, which may deny such applications outright.) In this case, Chase typically notifies you by letter within a month or two after approval that, as a previous cardholder, you will not receive the bonus a second time.

I'm an authorized user for a card issued to my spouse/parent. Does that prevent me from signing up for the same card and earning a bonus?
No. Being an additional user on someone else's account poses no bar to applying for that same card & bonus, except insofar as such cards may count toward the 5/24 rule (as discussed above).

I already have several Chase cards with a substantial aggregate line of credit. Will it improve my odds if I close an existing account (or lower its credit line) before applying for another?
Yes.

In the past, the conventional wisdom among FTers was that you were more likely to hurt your chances by closing an account or reducing CL unilaterally. However, substantial evidence from 2014 onward strongly indicates that Chase is increasingly likely to reject applications (or at least not auto-approve them) where an applicant has an existing total credit line that is high compared to his/her income & spending patterns. (For many members, the threshold appears to be in the $45K-60K range, but that is highly speculative.)

Recent reports suggest that closing accounts and/or voluntarily reducing credit lines increases the odds of auto-approval or in-branch pre-approval. (You can do either by calling or simply sending a secure message through your Chase online account. You do not need to provide a reason for the request.) For best results, keep at least $5K-10K in excess credit; if your application is not approved, you can always contact the reconsideration department and offer to reallocate that portion of your existing credit line. Note: despite allowing credit line to be moved between personal and business accounts in the past, Chase is no longer permitting such reallocation in either direction.

With respect to timing, it is better to reduce any CL as soon as you can conveniently do so, e.g., after meeting the bonus spend on a card you do not plan to use regularly thereafter. (Do not reduce CL on a given card if it would increase your "credit utiilization"--that is, the ratio of outstanding balance to CL--above ~30%. A high credit utilization number is a red flag for banks and can adversely affect your credit score.) Waiting until one's next application to lower a CL is less than optimal, as the reduced CL is not immediately recognized by all of Chase's systems.

There is no known minimum wait between lowering a CL and having the freed-up amount become available for purposes of a new application. A prudent applicant will, as recommended above, plan well in advance; failing that, an applicant would be wise to wait at least 24 hours between lowering a CL and applying for a new card.

I wasn't auto-approved. Should I call in?
It may be better to avoid calling Chase unless your application is denied. Many recent calls on pending applications led to denials, and many people report having success letting applications work their way through the system. Be patient. Time is on your side; increasingly, Chase CSRs are not.

If you do call, expect extensive and possibly hostile questioning. Be prepared to answer questions regarding the need for more credit, past credit apps for both Chase and other banks, income, business finances, etc. Know your CLs with Chase before you call so you know which card/s you are willing to decrease the CLs on. If the app is for a significant other who dislikes such calls, they can authorize you to speak on their behalf and hand the phone over to you.

How can I determine the deadline for meeting the spend requirement to earn the signup bonus?
Just send Chase a secure message (SM) through your online account. Although the deadline should in theory be N months from the date of approval (not the date of application or card activation)--where N is the number of months specified in the offer--Chase typically pads this period to account for the time required to fabricate and deliver physical cards. For example, a recent "3-month" deadline was in fact 114 days, as confirmed by Chase's SM confirmation.

Once I meet the card's spend requirement, how soon will I receive my signup bonus points?
Bonus points typically accrue at the close of the billing period in which you incur the corresponding charges. Points should appear in your hotel/airline account within a few days thereafter.

NOTE: If you complete your required spending in the last 7-10 days of the statement period, the bonus may not post until the following month's statement, even if the regular per-dollar points post on the first statement. This is normal behavior for Chase and is not worth a phone call.

Should I downgrade or cancel my existing cards before applying?
Useful Chase telephone numbers
(800) 432-3117 – General Application Status Line, automated
(800) 436-7927 – Alternative General Application Status Line, automated
(888) 609-7805 – Alternative Personal Reconsideration line with live rep
(888) 269-8690 - Business Credit Card Application Status Line, automated
(800) 453-9719 – Business Credit Card Reconsideration Line with live rep
(800) 955-9900 – General Card Services and Application status, automated
(888) 298-5623 – Credit Reallocation Office (Personal cards)
(800) 453-9719 – Credit Reallocation Office (Business cards)
(888) 622-7547 – Executive Offices
(877) 470-9042 – Personal Application Verification line with live rep
Twitter: @ChaseSupport
Note: In the past, automated telephone status reports stating that Chase would notify you in 2 weeks often resulted in an approval, whereas the "7-10 days" telephone recording often indicated imminent denial. In 2016, this pattern became increasingly unpredictable, with many applicants receiving approval despite an earlier "7-10 days" automated telephone message. As a result, automated telephone responses should not be regarded as reliable indicators of an application's likely outcome.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by rbw5t
I think you'd be ok. I had two open Chase business cards before being approved for this one, plus 5 open personal cards. Those are all on my own account. Plus, I'm an authorized user on probably 8 Chase accounts of my spouse's. And that just with Chase -- we must have 40 open cards between us, with most as authorized users on each others. We cooled it on my own over the year to get below 5/24, but I still get AU on spouse's card. So, when I did my call, I had them ignore at least a dozen cards. All went just fine once I got someone who understand what he was looking for, which was that I only had 3 cards opened in my own name in the last 24 months. If that's true for you, I think you'll have nothing to worry about. As I reported above, if someone is giving you trouble, HUCA.
Thanks for the data points. I held off on my Chase apps too because I really wanted that Reserve...I fell under 5/24 just in time to get the 100K. It will be quite a while if ever before DH gets another Chase card. Based on your experience, I'm going to go for it!
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 11:22 pm
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CSR app: call or wait?

Was 5/24 until June 30, when I got to 4/24. Applied for CSR on 7/3, got the 30-days message. The automated line message changed to under review / 7-10business days on 7/4, and hasn't changed since.

The wiki suggests waiting until declined to call, but the flow chart going around the forum as well as some DP reports suggest is better to call in if the message is 7-10 days. I'm wondering if I should wait or call - anyone have any success recently after the 7-10 days message without calling in?
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by trufle
anyone have any success recently after the 7-10 days message without calling in?
In the last month or so? No, we haven't done any Chase apps that recently. So I suppose it's possible that things have changed recently. But I no reason to think that they have.

Multiple times over the past several years? Yes, both DW and I have had a number of apps change to 7-10. We just waited it out, and always were eventually approved. YMMV of course, but it's been so consistent for us that we no longer even care what the message says.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 9:32 am
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DP: Approved for IHG card at 9/24. Although I'm not seeing my new AMEX cards on my credit karma report, so probably 7/24 in Chase's eyes. TransUnion: Excellent Equifax: Good
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by Don.Majik.Juan
DP: Approved for IHG card at 9/24. Although I'm not seeing my new AMEX cards on my credit karma report, so probably 7/24 in Chase's eyes. TransUnion: Excellent Equifax: Good
As mentioned in the wikipost atop this thread, the IHG card is not subject to 5/24.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertHanson
In the last month or so? No, we haven't done any Chase apps that recently. So I suppose it's possible that things have changed recently. But I no reason to think that they have.

Multiple times over the past several years? Yes, both DW and I have had a number of apps change to 7-10. We just waited it out, and always were eventually approved. YMMV of course, but it's been so consistent for us that we no longer even care what the message says.
Thanks! I did call in today and turned out they wanted me to fax in address proof. Will fax over my electricity bill today or Monday.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 12:13 pm
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First time poster, just wanted to share my story.

I have excellent credit (above 800), never carry a balance, never miss a credit card, mortgage or auto-loan payment, etc.

Prior to February of this year I only had two credit cards, a Citi one that I had since 2005 and a Chase one I've had since 2007. I also had a couple of store-only credit cards going back 10+ years.

I'm taking a trip in September that I wanted to more or less free-roll with sign-up bonuses. I applied and was instantly approved for five credit cards from Feb. to June 2017. Two were with Chase, one was Citi, one was Barclays, one was First National Bank of Omaha.

For what it's worth I have a sub-$2000 mortgage with Wells Fargo going back to 2009. I also began an auto lease with Chase that began in April 2017. I hadn't made a car payment in 6.5 years prior to that.

I applied for a sixth card, IHG with Chase, this week and got the following message: "We have received your request for a Chase credit card. We'll let you know our decision by U.S. mail. This could take up to 30 days."

I decided not to push the issue, did not contact them. I got a phone call this morning from Chase asking to verify income and mortgage information. They didn't even ask for any employer information or paystubs, they just wanted me to state my annual income over the phone.

The guy said in light of my being an "excellent" customer over the last 10 years he didn't want to deny the card, and said the issue was total line of credit relative to my income. The three Chase cards I had were a combined line of credit of $55,000. Nothing was said about the 5/24 rule. So the solution was to lower the credit line on one of them and give that deficit to the IHG card, and I got approved.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by VH Fan
The guy said in light of my being an "excellent" customer over the last 10 years he didn't want to deny the card, and said the issue was total line of credit relative to my income. The three Chase cards I had were a combined line of credit of $55,000. Nothing was said about the 5/24 rule. So the solution was to lower the credit line on one of them and give that deficit to the IHG card, and I got approved.
Hello VH Fan, and welcome to FlyerTalk!

The IHG card is not subject to 5/24, as outlined in the wiki and a few posts prior to yours. However, even when not subject to 5/24, Chase does have the flexibility to move credit lines among open accounts to approve you.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 10:24 pm
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wife was 0/24 when we started in January, but had a 7+yr old Freedom card and a 2+yr old SW Business card. Applied for 3 cards on the same day: CSR (instant approval), SW+ (instant approval), Ink+ (approved after we faxed in supporting docs).

Went into a branch last week of June and applied for a SW Premier card on my laptop, got 30 day message, then applied for a Ink Preferred (for same business that had the old SW Bus card) with the banker and got 30 day message. Waited about a week to see if they might just be approved and show up online but they didnt so i called recon and focused on the SW card. She said it was denied for too much credit, "we opened a great many accounts recently". I asked for recon and after grilling me they agreed to open the SW if she moved CL from another card. Then I asked her to look at the Ink Pref and after more grilling she agreed again to open it if I moved credit from the existing SW Bus card.

Not sure what the puts us at now after 3 personal and 2 bus cards opened. is that 5/24? 3/24? is it worth trying for another chase card to see what happens? After reading the last few pages here now I should have tried to lower the credit limits myself in advance of applying, that might have helped with instant approvals.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by VH Fan
First time poster, just wanted to share my story.

I have excellent credit (above 800), never carry a balance, never miss a credit card, mortgage or auto-loan payment, etc.

Prior to February of this year I only had two credit cards, a Citi one that I had since 2005 and a Chase one I've had since 2007. I also had a couple of store-only credit cards going back 10+ years.

I'm taking a trip in September that I wanted to more or less free-roll with sign-up bonuses. I applied and was instantly approved for five credit cards from Feb. to June 2017. Two were with Chase, one was Citi, one was Barclays, one was First National Bank of Omaha.

For what it's worth I have a sub-$2000 mortgage with Wells Fargo going back to 2009. I also began an auto lease with Chase that began in April 2017. I hadn't made a car payment in 6.5 years prior to that.

I applied for a sixth card, IHG with Chase, this week and got the following message: "We have received your request for a Chase credit card. We'll let you know our decision by U.S. mail. This could take up to 30 days."

I decided not to push the issue, did not contact them. I got a phone call this morning from Chase asking to verify income and mortgage information. They didn't even ask for any employer information or paystubs, they just wanted me to state my annual income over the phone.

The guy said in light of my being an "excellent" customer over the last 10 years he didn't want to deny the card, and said the issue was total line of credit relative to my income. The three Chase cards I had were a combined line of credit of $55,000. Nothing was said about the 5/24 rule. So the solution was to lower the credit line on one of them and give that deficit to the IHG card, and I got approved.
^ Congratulations, well played.

Now, assuming you may want to apply for another Chase card in, say, the next 20 years you should lower the credit limit on some of those cards. Pick any cards that you don't expect to use more than around $3K in a billing cycle, and SM Chase to lower the CL on them to @$3K. Bringing your total Chase cl, (I'm assuming your yearly income isn't in excess of $1 million, in which case never mind) to no more than $30K. Then next time you won't have to move CL around, and may even get an instant approval.

Be aware the 50K mile British Airways card, and the Marriott Business card, are not subject to the 5/24 rule. But you need to wait awhile before making another app with Chase.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by gotkwah
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wife was 0/24 when we started in January, but had a 7+yr old Freedom card and a 2+yr old SW Business card. Applied for 3 cards on the same day: CSR (instant approval), SW+ (instant approval), Ink+ (approved after we faxed in supporting docs).

Went into a branch last week of June and applied for a SW Premier card on my laptop, got 30 day message, then applied for a Ink Preferred (for same business that had the old SW Bus card) with the banker and got 30 day message. Waited about a week to see if they might just be approved and show up online but they didnt so i called recon and focused on the SW card. She said it was denied for too much credit, "we opened a great many accounts recently". I asked for recon and after grilling me they agreed to open the SW if she moved CL from another card. Then I asked her to look at the Ink Pref and after more grilling she agreed again to open it if I moved credit from the existing SW Bus card.

Not sure what the puts us at now after 3 personal and 2 bus cards opened. is that 5/24? 3/24? is it worth trying for another chase card to see what happens? After reading the last few pages here now I should have tried to lower the credit limits myself in advance of applying, that might have helped with instant approvals.
Am I reading this right, all of the apps are for your wife? If so, she might be at 5/24, or not, it's very unclear if Chase counts their own business cards for 5/24. But in any case, that's enough Chase apps for her for a few months. Do some spend on all of those cards, pay it all off before the bills post, and show Chase she is a reliable customer before doing any more Chase apps. And read my post just above on reducing her total Chase cl.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Hello new to the forums and just started learning a lot in the last few weeks. Thought I would share my progress for future dp.

Fico Mid 780’s. Vantage score 814-819 100k+ income. Already own a Freedom card with 5+ years history. Always pay off balances. Non chase banking customer.

24 mo. History:
BoA personal
Discover personal
Credit U personal

Without knowing any better applied for Chase AARP on 06/17 Instant approval bringing me to 4/24. Applied for Ink cash 07/02. Received 30 day email, called in 07/05 and got approval without speaking to analyst. Unsure if I should count this as 5/24?

Bureau currently reporting 2/24. Credit Union card and Chase AARP have not yet posted to bureau. I spoke with CU reps and they do all of their reporting on the 4th. I’m going to try the CSR on 08/01 just in case the Ink does count as 5/24.

When I apply for CSR it would be 47 days from AARP approval and 29 days from ink approval.

Would like to squeeze in the Freedom U if possible. I was considering doing a second app the same day I do CSR. Should I not push it? Thoughts and opinions appreciated!
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 1:46 pm
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You should not push it.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by txflyer77
You should not push it.
I just started looking at the shutdown thread. Definitely not going to push it. I don't MS, but would like to tread lightly until i build some history on these new cards. I suppose I'll just wait 6 mos and try. ^
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertHanson
Am I reading this right, all of the apps are for your wife? If so, she might be at 5/24, or not, it's very unclear if Chase counts their own business cards for 5/24. But in any case, that's enough Chase apps for her for a few months. Do some spend on all of those cards, pay it all off before the bills post, and show Chase she is a reliable customer before doing any more Chase apps. And read my post just above on reducing her total Chase cl.
yes, all apps are the wife. I started reading the shutdown thread and definitely see the idea behind cooling off with chase. Just frustrating because if she is at 5/24 I want to just move on to other banks...
Won't lowering CL so much hurt her utilization and credit score? She doesnt have much other credit besides these cards. Also, shutdown thread seems to indicate that they might not like when you pay everything off before bills post. Is there any sense in incurring some small interest charges every once in a while? (I am talking about carrying a $100 balance for a week or something)
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