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Old May 17, 2017, 6:45 pm
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Many Chase cards, including Sapphire Preferred and Reserve and MileagePlus Explorer, come with three different kinds of travel protection:

Trip Delay: This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

Trip Cancellation: This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference). Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption: This is similar to Trip Cancellation, but reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because you cut your trip short for a covered reason (illness, etc.). It mostly covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Exceptions: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

No coverage on the Chase cards will pay for new expensive tickets home.

How to file a claim:
- go to http://eclaimsline.com/ , or
- call 1-888-675-1461

Guide to Benefits:
Read it! CSR - CSP

Trip Delay FAQ and experiences

This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

How long does the delay have to be? 6 hours for CSR, 12 hours for CSP and MPE, check your guide to benefits for other cards. Also kicks in if the delay is "overnight".
Are delays because of weather and mechanical problems covered? Yes.
Who is covered? Only you, your spouse, your dependent children under 22. For large meals (multiple main courses), people have been asked what portion of the meal was consumed by covered travelers.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their spouse and dependent children.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the flight that is delayed with the Chase card? Yes.
Do I have to use my Chase card to purchase hotel/meals/etc. I am hoping to have covered? No, you can use any card, or cash. Just keep your receipts.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 1 year. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
Does it cover alcohol? Recent reports indicate yes; some older reports of alcohol being denied.
Does it cover tips? Recent reports indicate yes, up to 20%; some older reports of tips being denied.
My airline is offering a voucher for a hotel, but I skipped the voucher line and booked my own hotel. Am I covered? Reports point to yes, as long as you did not actually take the airline up on their offer.
Rather than staying in a hotel, I'd rather rent a car / buy a walk-up fare on another airline. Will this be covered? Mixed reports. In general this coverage is meant for expenses incurred during a delay, not onward travel.
How do I show the reason for the delay? The coverage requires a statement from the carrier indicating the cause of the delay. If your document doesn't state the cause of the delay, it probably will not work. One possibility is to get a military excuse while at the airport; another is to screenshot the carrier's website or app if it shows the cause. You can also write after the fact to get a delay letter: United: [email protected] , Delta , American. Make sure to request that the delay letter state the cause of the delay. For other carriers contact their main customer service.
Am I covered if my flight is cancelled and I am rebooked on a later flight? Yes
Am I covered if my flight is slightly delayed and I miss my connection, causing a longer delay? Yes
Am I covered at my home airport? Maybe. This report of someone being covered after appeal for hotel in Newark when EWR flight was delayed, lives in NJ but not Newark. Guide says "You are not covered for any Covered Hazard delay that was made public or known to you prior to the departure for the Covered Trip [a period of round-trip travel (meaning departing from and eventually returning to your primary residence) that doesn’t exceed three hundred and sixty- five (365) days away from your residence to a destination other than your city of residence.]".
I was delayed on my outbound and claimed $500. Now am I delayed on my inbound. Am I covered? One report on this thread of two reimbursements for two different delay incidents on a single ticket. Chase says "per trip" on the phone, but Guide says "per ticket". So a round-trip ticket may not cover two delays, but two one-ways could. Need more data on this.

Experiences:

  • 01/2014 - Delayed in MSP overnight due to mechanical issues. ~$300 for Hotel Ivy downtown, meals, and ground transportation covered with no issues. Benefits applied to AMEX FHR. Claim processed within 1 week. [Full Report]
  • 02/2014 - Flight was cancelled due to weather; booked Amtrak with points, which was then delayed because of downed electrical wires; rented a car and drove home. Used print out from flightaware.com to show flight was cancelled, claimed non-points dollar amount for Amtrak ticket, got Chase (not insurance) to request receipts from vendors that weren't saved by OP. All was covered. Full report
  • 04/2014 - Delayed in DTW overnight due to crew member time-out. ~$400 for DTW Westin and meals covered with no issues. Claim processed within 1 week. Full Report
  • 07/2014- Delayed in MSP overnight due to weather at destination. Booked Marriott Mall of America for $120, and meals for 3 and a shirt were all covered. Recommend keeping new and old boarding passes.
  • 12/2014 - Trip delay in WAS (flight was delayed because of MX causing misconnect and overnight. Reward flight with taxes+fees on Chase card. OP + wife were covered $632 for a for a room, dinner, and taxi roundtrip from the airport. Gratuity was not reimbursed and could not convince them to after a phone call. Hotel Was $380 after tax and this was not a problem.
  • 07/2016 - Delayed in YYC overnight due to mechanical problems. Claim paid out ~$300. Full report.
  • 7/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to thunderstorms. ~$390 for hotel, uber, meals. Claim processed within a week, no issues. Full report.
  • 9/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to Harvey. ~$499 for hotel, ubereats. Claim processed in 7 business days
  • 1/2017 - $625 covered on two tickets on JetBlue award flight with taxes+fees on Chase in FLL. Missed connection due to Mx. Incl. $65 at Walgreens, r/t uber to hotel, uber home, $265 hotel, $180 meal. Tax, tip, and alcohol covered.
  • 06/2017 - $258 covered for overnight delay hotel/dinner. Did not cover $50 to pick a seat on next day's flight. Full report
  • 08/2017 - covered during ATC equipment failure leading to cancelled flight
  • 08/2017 - covered with flightaware showing delay, no direct statement from carrier. Booked dummy return flight on Southwest to 'comply' with r/t requirement.
  • 12/2017 - covered for forced overnight due to ATL "Power Outage". Entire ticket, including taxes, was paid for using Ultimate Reward points through my Reserve account. There was no credit card charge showing on my account.
  • 1/2018 - covered for $500 including hotel tips, a drink, and minibar snacks w/ no receipt (but showed credit card statement with purchases listed)
  • 1/2018 - covered rental + gas to drive to int'l gateway when feeder flight was cancelled.
  • 3/2018 - covered int'l phone calls, roaming cell phone data (submitted phone bill), storage locker, and hotel.
  • 4/2018 - covered hotel, meals/snacks, cold medicine, Uber ground transport for overnight due to weather. Award ticket with taxes/fees on CSR.
  • 5/2018 - covered $250 in hotel, uber, two meals after missing a connection in a "painless but slightly drawn out" process. Had to request a different delay letter because first one didn't state cause of delay. Total turn-around time 40 days including re-requesting delay letter.
  • 11/2018 - covered $300+ in hotel, 2 Ubers, 3 meals; did not cover seat charge or Uber home; originally booked with UR points (no CC charge)
  • 7/2019 - covered $400+ in hotel, rental car, 3 meals, clothing/toiletries for me, wife and son for 24 hour delay; award tickets with taxes/fees in CSR.

(A previous thread that dealt with travel delay compensation has been closed and all future issues with travel delays & cancellations will be handled here. The last 4 posts from that thread have been merged into this one. The closed thread can be found here.)

For one overview of when you're covered and how to file a claim, read this blog post. The Milewriter @ Saverocity compiled a lot of information from this thread, and thanks all the contributors.

Trip Cancellation / Trip Interruption

This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel or interrupt because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption only covers a few new expenses: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility and from the airport to your home.

What are covered reasons? Illness or injury or death (with documentation) of you or family, severe weather, change in military orders, terrorism, jury duty or subpoena, uninhabitable dwelling, quarantine, or if your travel supplier goes bankrupt. Pre-existing medical conditions are not covered.
Who is covered? CSP/CSR: Extended family: You, your Spouse or Domestic Partner and their children, including adopted children or step-children; legal guardians or wards; siblings or siblings-in-law; parents or parents-in-law; grandparents or grandchildren; aunts or uncles; nieces or nephews. MPE: You, spouse/domestic partner, dependent children.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their extended family / immediate family depending on the card.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the travel arrangements with my card to be covered? Apparently now this is "yes", you have to pay for "some portion" of each travel arrangement (hotel, flight, etc.) for that arrangement to be covered.
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are covered? "airline tickets, train tickets, bus tickets, prepaid tours, hotels, and rental cars."
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are not covered? "Event Tickets or prepaid fees to theme parks, museums, golf courses, or other points of interest"
I got ill during a trip and had to buy really expensive tickets to fly home. Will I get reimbursed? No. If you can't use your original tickets, this will reimburse you for those -- but new tickets are on you. If you change your original tickets, this will cover the change fee only. It does not pay for fare difference or new tickets. It will pay up to $250 to get you to/from the airport or train station, medical facility, and to your residence after you land at your home airport.
I got ill and need to cancel my trip / return early. What documentation do I need? Generally a letter from a physician or other medical person. There is a special claim form for the doctor to fill out but a sufficiently detailed letter from the doctor can work too.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 60 days. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
My flight was cancelled. Am I covered? Probably not. Only if it was cancelled due to weather or transit strikes, and only if you didn't get reimbursed by the carrier. However, see Trip Delay above.
I cancelled my trip and the airline has given me one year to use my tickets, but I can't use them. How do I get reimbursed? Several reports indicate that you must wait for the unused tickets to expire, then file another claim. You can get the change fee covered right away. Other reports say if you demonstrate you won't use the tickets, they'll cover full amount right now. YMMV.
Am I covered if I'm taking a road trip, with no flights or common carrier? Yes. However the online claim form requires flight info; just fill it out with dummy flights and explain your other documents that there was no common carrier.
I am pregnant and no longer want to travel. Am I covered? Maybe. Generally, unexpected complications with non-IVF pre-26th week single pregnancies are covered. Non-IVF multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets) are not covered unless you get pregnant after purchasing your tickets. IVF pregnancies are not covered. The guide says you are not covered for "Travel arrangements that are scheduled to take place after the twenty-sixth (26th) week of pregnancy; or when any multiple pregnancy, with or without complications, occurs prior to the initial deposit date or booking date of the Trip; or any pregnancy associated with an assisted reproductive program, such as in vitro fertilization"
There is civil unrest at my destination, am I covered? Maybe. Generally you are covered if there is a Terrorist Incident or State Dept travel warning during your trip (Trip Interruption) or in the 30 days leading up to your trip (for Trip Cancellation) for within 25 miles of any place along your trip itinerary or your home, as long as the incident or warning didn't happen before you booked your tickets. Not covered is "War, undeclared war, civil war, insurrection, rebellion, revolution, warlike acts by a military force or personnel". Also not covered is "Trips booked to any area known to be associated with Terrorist Activity" (meaning multiple Terrorist Incidents or travel warnings in 12 months) and "disinclination to travel due to civil unrest [or] an epidemic or pandemic".

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Old Apr 8, 2017, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by wizzy
3 day delay due to Delta cancellation; that is the soonest they can get us out after this week's meltdown and spring break traffic.

Before I thought about this benefit, I extended our stay using spg points. Am I able to get somehow reimbursed for a points stay? I took some screenshots of what a revenue stay would have been, after the fact.
Claims process involve providing receipt showing amount paid which will show $0
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 1:48 pm
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Just change fee, or full refund?

I had to cancel United flights, purchased with CSR, due to a family illness.

I would like Chase to give me a full refund for my nonrefundable tickets. However, they only gave me $400, saying that would cover the change fee (for using my ticket value in the future).

The problem is that I won't be able to fly on United before the credit expires. I wrote them again about getting a full refund instead, but I'd like to be prepared with more data from this forum.

Can I expect to get the full value of my ticket back?

(And if not, what is the point of this insurance anyway, as United might already waive the change fee considering the circumstances?)

Thanks!
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 4:27 pm
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Unlikely to get a full refund because the ticket still has value.
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
I made a claim recently for $8.28 for a sandwich and bottle of water during a long delay of a Kenya Airways flight.

I am now being asked to provide an itemised receipt for the $8.28 (which was paid with my Chase card), even though the same request says that no itemised receipts are required for food expenses under $50. There was no itemised receipt provided by the kiosk at Nairobi airport - just the credit card sales slip.

Any way to get around this or just write off the $8 as the easiest option?
You are really going to all the trouble of claiming $8?
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Old Apr 11, 2017, 12:58 am
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You are really going to all the trouble of claiming $8?
Well, I figured I'd make the original claim since I was entitled to it. But if it winds up being a hassle (as it appears to have become) then I'm not going to bother continuing to pursue it.

Takes a few minutes to submit a web form and I can spare that. I don't intend to sit on the phone and argue over $8 however.
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Old Apr 11, 2017, 6:31 am
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If I book a flight with my airline credit card and a non-refundable hotel with the Chase Sapphire Preferred, do I get my money back (for the hotel) if the flight is cancelled due to weather? Or should both the flight and the hotel be booked with the CSP for that to happen?
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Old Apr 15, 2017, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by MNSWEEps
That assumption seems wrong per link above.

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If any or all of the Covered Trip was paid for using redeemable
Rewards, the Company will reimburse the Insured Person for Rewards
used. The Company’s reimbursement shall equal the monetary value
of the redemption through the Common Carrier, Tour Operator, Travel
Agency, or Travel Supplier up to the Benefit Amount. If the monetary
value of the redemption does not appear on the Insured Person’s
itinerary or redemption confirmation issued by the Common Carrier,
Rewards program manager, Tour Operator, Travel Agency, or Travel
Supplier the Company will reimburse the Insured Person ($.01) per
point redeemed up to the Insured Person’s Benefit Amount.
***********
Thanks!
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Old Apr 15, 2017, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
Well, I figured I'd make the original claim since I was entitled to it. But if it winds up being a hassle (as it appears to have become) then I'm not going to bother continuing to pursue it.

Takes a few minutes to submit a web form and I can spare that. I don't intend to sit on the phone and argue over $8 however.
It's clear to me itemized for food under $50 is not required. The benefits administrator figures most people won't fight it out for $8, and they probably reject hundreds of these, which adds up quickly for them. I say make them follow the rules and pursue the claim!
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Old Apr 17, 2017, 2:42 pm
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It's clear to me itemized for food under $50 is not required. The benefits administrator figures most people won't fight it out for $8, and they probably reject hundreds of these, which adds up quickly for them. I say make them follow the rules and pursue the claim!
I agree. Do not let them to get away with it.

I am not sure I would do it for $8, but we did pursue our claim for $48, after getting the same 'you have to submit itemized receipt' from the benefit adminstrators.
It was a Vegas vendor, we spent 1 miinute writing an e-mail to them requesting itemized receipt. Got it in 24 hours, submitted, then was reimbursed for $78 food - for some uinknown reason. We did not dispute it.

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Old Apr 18, 2017, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by pirossalma
It was a Vegas vendor, we spent 1 miinute writing an e-mail to them requesting itemized receipt.
Not sure this would work for a sandwich kiosk at Nairobi airport though!
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Old Apr 18, 2017, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
If I book a flight with my airline credit card and a non-refundable hotel with the Chase Sapphire Preferred, do I get my money back (for the hotel) if the flight is cancelled due to weather? Or should both the flight and the hotel be booked with the CSP for that to happen?
The insurance doesn't cover the cost of blown reservations. It only covers:

You are covered for reasonable additional expenses, including but not limited to meals, lodging, toiletries, medication and other personal use items that you encounter due to a Covered Hazard delay, as long as the services were not provided free of charge by the Common Carrier or any other party. [...] prepaid expenses are not covered.
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Old Apr 21, 2017, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by missamo80
The insurance doesn't cover the cost of blown reservations. It only covers:



Neil
Why can't you put the hotel under Trip Cancellation..

Never started the trip - check

Trip Cancellation insurance reimburses you or your Immediate Family Members for up to ten thousand ($10,000.00) dollars for each Covered Trip if a Covered Loss prevents you or your Immediate Family Members from traveling on or before the departure date and results in cancellation of the travel arrangements.

Bad weather - check

Covered Loss means one of the following events that occur when you or an Immediate Family Member is insured under the policy and the event causes cancellation of the travel arrangements:

• Severe weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from beginning or continuing on a Covered Trip

I know this assumes the bad weather is where the person is and not where the airplane is.
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Old Apr 21, 2017, 1:59 pm
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My bad, I was thinking this was trip interruption, not trip cancellation.

I question whether they would consider a flight cancelled due to weather the same thing as "Severe weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from beginning or continuing on a Covered Trip". I could see that covering, for example, bailing on a trip because a hurricane is about to hit where you are going. That's very different than an airline cancelling a flight because of a thunderstorm en route.

If you can convince them a cancelled flight is "Severe weather" then yes, it looks like you'd get the non-refundable hotel rate back. In practice, it's probably easier to just call the hotel directly, explain what happened, and ask nicely for a refund.

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Old Apr 22, 2017, 9:36 pm
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Can’t seem to find the answer:

Would these various coverages be in effect if the travel was paid for with one of these cards several months in advance of travel, credit card account subsequently closed (prior to travel) and then a covered loss occurs during travel?

Thank you.
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
Can’t seem to find the answer:

Would these various coverages be in effect if the travel was paid for with one of these cards several months in advance of travel, credit card account subsequently closed (prior to travel) and then a covered loss occurs during travel?

Thank you.
One has to be a card holder for any benefit eligibility.
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