CX Status Match
#31
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
1.) CX definitely wants more loyalty, because J and F pax are falling off a cliff
2.) I have a few friends/colleagues who were comped gold status with very little verification whatsoever, just my knowledge of someone at MPC and them knowing my flying patterns as DM
But don't be disappointed if you don't get it...because SL on CX is actually quite useful as well (much better than the US lowest elite level), and also because it is far easier to get GO on CO than GO on CX. GO on CO might be, from a revenue standpoint at CX, even less than many CX SL members. Welcome to the world of CX's high fares, Y fares that don't count for elite miles at all (and full-fare Y fares that give you just 100% miles), J class that only gives you 125%, no auto-upgrades...etc.etc.etc.
#32
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: FB Platinum but have moved to BA OneWorld
Posts: 3
AF/KL does not just suck for their FFP by the way. Their BC is pretty bad compared to others and CDG is a horrible airport where delays are normal especially for AF.
If you like to be treated like a little child and get ripped off with 'additional' charges when booking an award ticket, AF/KL is the place to go!
#33
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mostly EU & (SE)Asia
Programs: Various shiny cards at hotel chains and airlines
Posts: 1,039
Believe me, it is bad. It is ridicelous actually. I am a 5 year consecutive platinum at AF/KL and I have stopped all my business with them after April 1. Unfortunately one C-flight to the US I had already booked but from now on I am flying BA. Just looking for a status match from a OneWorld airline. Too bad BA does not match... I will give them appr. 15 intercontinental C-class flights a year and another 30 within Europe...
AF/KL does not just suck for their FFP by the way. Their BC is pretty bad compared to others and CDG is a horrible airport where delays are normal especially for AF.
If you like to be treated like a little child and get ripped off with 'additional' charges when booking an award ticket, AF/KL is the place to go!
AF/KL does not just suck for their FFP by the way. Their BC is pretty bad compared to others and CDG is a horrible airport where delays are normal especially for AF.
If you like to be treated like a little child and get ripped off with 'additional' charges when booking an award ticket, AF/KL is the place to go!
#34
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Asia/Europe
Programs: CX, OZ, MU (+AY, DL), Shangri-La, Hilton
Posts: 7,236
#35
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 272
CX Status Match
I requested MP Diamond status match based on 1K UAL status. After two weeks, I was offered MP Silver. I wrote back politely declining the offer. I told them I would be traveling on CX several times over the next few months in F. If they didn't at least match to Gold, I would stick to UAL. I haven't heard back yet.
#36
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: CX Silver, Ex-*A Silver, Marriott-Plat, Hilton-Gold
Posts: 68
I requested MP Diamond status match based on 1K UAL status. After two weeks, I was offered MP Silver. I wrote back politely declining the offer. I told them I would be traveling on CX several times over the next few months in F. If they didn't at least match to Gold, I would stick to UAL. I haven't heard back yet.
To me silver is good enough for a match this time of the year...maybe i am wrong, good luck
#37
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: HKG
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, CX DM, QF GO, AA LT GO, UA SL, LH FT, Marr LT Titanium, Shang DM, Hyatt Glob, Hilton DM
Posts: 2,024
I think I remember reading somewhere here before, that someone was indeed given DM after a good number of very frequent F flights, but, only AFTER these are flown. he's also asked to start at SL/GO despite all the F bookings...
but, well, if you're flying F anyway, what else does DM bring you ?
there's a few things, but not too important, at least to me - buggy at HKIA, 2 guests to the lounge (but F can also bring one guest, or no? I'm not sure), J lounge access when not flying CX/oneworld, extra luggage allowance...what else ?
but, well, if you're flying F anyway, what else does DM bring you ?
there's a few things, but not too important, at least to me - buggy at HKIA, 2 guests to the lounge (but F can also bring one guest, or no? I'm not sure), J lounge access when not flying CX/oneworld, extra luggage allowance...what else ?
#38
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
Yes, I agree - if you're flying F anyway then status is more or less irrelevant, and certainly not a reason to take UA instead of CX - that would just be the most extreme example of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
#39
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-EP, TK-*G, HL-DM, HY-GLO, MR-LTP
Posts: 25,932
I requested MP Diamond status match based on 1K UAL status. After two weeks, I was offered MP Silver. I wrote back politely declining the offer. I told them I would be traveling on CX several times over the next few months in F. If they didn't at least match to Gold, I would stick to UAL. I haven't heard back yet.
You might be better off getting an AA Platinum challenge and then fly a few AA sectors for that.
#40
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
I agree with the last few posts. DM membership will not get much if the passenger is already flying F.
If the passenger already has a 1K status and if the DM status is the decision factor, he should probably stick with UA. He can continue to enjoy 100% tier bonus and possibly become a GS soon. A GS status will be very useful as he is in the Bay Area.
If the passenger already has a 1K status and if the DM status is the decision factor, he should probably stick with UA. He can continue to enjoy 100% tier bonus and possibly become a GS soon. A GS status will be very useful as he is in the Bay Area.
#41
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
I requested MP Diamond status match based on 1K UAL status. After two weeks, I was offered MP Silver. I wrote back politely declining the offer. I told them I would be traveling on CX several times over the next few months in F. If they didn't at least match to Gold, I would stick to UAL. I haven't heard back yet.
I think a lot of US-based travelers come to Asia with 1K or AA Exec Plat status and don't realize that people based in Asia, in my experience, tend to 1.) travel a lot more than their US-based counterparts and 2.) spend heaps more on their airline bills. Someone flying regularly long-haul J on CX could spend up to $60-$70k a year on CX metal alone - ie, they might pend $80k a year on tickets, of which 70-80% is spent on CX planes - while right now (aka, this moment) I'm pretty sure UA is doing 3x elite miles for full fare Y, and 2x elite miles for discount Y!!! You could get 1k right now just doing 7 round-trips of $1400 full Y-class JFK-SFO, or 14 JFK-SFO round-trips at around $400-$500. Hmmmm. That type of promotion just doesn't happen on CX.
#42
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: HKG
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, CX DM, QF GO, AA LT GO, UA SL, LH FT, Marr LT Titanium, Shang DM, Hyatt Glob, Hilton DM
Posts: 2,024
I very much agree. I think CX wants revenue. 1K itself won't be enough for DM. I think I read about the requirement for GS before and it isn't that high at all, right, in terms of revenue ? something like USD 25-50k or so ? many MPO GO can easily reach it already.
if you cannot show them you're GS with UA, they probably are not that interested in converting a low-value 1K to become a low-value DM. I think even GS 1P (which I think exists now?) is better than a non-GS 1K.
if you cannot show them you're GS with UA, they probably are not that interested in converting a low-value 1K to become a low-value DM. I think even GS 1P (which I think exists now?) is better than a non-GS 1K.
#43
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: China
Programs: UA,DL,CZ
Posts: 860
Just explained that I´m considering switching my business to Cathay... and so on! Plus copys, scans & screenshots of my card, account, travel history!
Dear Mr XXX
Thank you for your email.
Having reviewed your travel history, we should be delighted to enrol you
as a Silver tier member of The Marco Polo Club, free of charge.
If you wish to accept this offer, please complete the attached ?Marco
Polo Club Application Form? and then return by email, or fax to +852
2412 5946. We will then process your membership pack as quickly as
possible.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards
Dear Mr XXX
Thank you for your email.
Having reviewed your travel history, we should be delighted to enrol you
as a Silver tier member of The Marco Polo Club, free of charge.
If you wish to accept this offer, please complete the attached ?Marco
Polo Club Application Form? and then return by email, or fax to +852
2412 5946. We will then process your membership pack as quickly as
possible.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind regards
It seems Cathay can do status match for all other airlines, not just AF/KLM, right?
#45
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-EP, TK-*G, HL-DM, HY-GLO, MR-LTP
Posts: 25,932