shek3112

sorry my fault. yes you're correct it's the judge... I already gave back all my EPA knowledge to my school teachers lollll

pbd456

(i dont type chinese so it took me a while to locate the video).

after this video, i saw post on KA secret about this and they were saying the FA was being bullied by others.

boybi

Countries have control of their airspace, they can decide who to allow to fly over them.

Having a pilot or crew known to have anti-China sentiments will be deemed to be a risk to national security. He might suddenly think of crashing the plane into China.

Chromie25

CX is a corporation and not the court, different rules might apply. For your reference my company would suspend me from my role immediately if I was charged with a criminal offense.

percysmith

Davvidd

Yes countries can ban individuals flying in their airspace. Every passenger who flies over US is cleared to fly or in other words anyone on a no fly list cannot fly over the US airspace. I also think we have to look at the actual wording in which it quotes, " Illegal protests" "Violent actions" "overly radical activities". Also the Pilot was charged with rioting and furthermore CX staff had leaked a passenger manifest which involved the HK Police Football team. So I presume that the staff who took part in the legal demonstrations are not included in this and some particular staff who took part in the rioting and illegal protests are involved.
What this highlights is that the Chinese Authorities know exactly who is involved in this though they personally have not got themselves involved directly. As for CX, it is in a no win situation. Damned if they did it and damned it they didn't provide the list.

pbd456

After EVA strike, some crew made the comment in social media that she would spike the drink/food for those crew who didnt participate the strike and passengers who dont share their views.

KUL1971

There seems to be some reports about crew members revealing passenger data to 3rd party, and protesters were tipped off to confront these people upon arrival

Not sure if this is true, but if it was, then it's inappropriate

Brgds

pbd456

yes. that is true. a team of police and fireman went to China for sports competition and their travel details were revealed in a group.

the reality is that it is considered as appropriate action. i even know a kindergarden kid of a police is being bullied in school. apparently, it is considered okay at some school. in fact, a vice principal of a school wrote publicly that he sincerely wish kids of black police wont survive past 7 years old

percysmith

Davvidd

That article also says about a pilot making an announcement on the PA system about adding oil which I think is a slogan of the protestors and in reality should not be used on a flight by a pilot. I think this is another pilot that may get grounded.

szehui

"Add oil" is not a specific protest slogan, but rather a common expression of encouragement in Cantonese (and other Chinese dialects as well). This occurrence happened on the day of the first airport sit-in, and the pilot was advising passengers in English of what to expect in the Arrivals Hall. The audio of that announcement went viral, if you'd like to listen to it for yourself: . The piece of it that you are referring to was the last sentence, in Cantonese, in which he simply said "Hong Kongers add oil, be careful in all that you do".

Davvidd

OK I don't speak any Chinese and only saw what it was said in the news on adding oil.

fumje

Maybe someone else can improve, but I think a more natural-English interpretation might be 'Hong Kong people take heart, and take care in all things.'

To my ear the announcement sounds generally informative and is not sloganeering, but the captain subtly voices his sympathy for the protesters at the end.

FlyPointyEnd