Aug 10, 2019, 6:54 pm
Last edit by: percysmith
This thread is to discuss the facts and practical implications of the China ruling on airspace and Cathay crew flying through the airspace.
For non-CX impact on travel to HK, please go to this thread in HK/Macau https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hong...ns-travel.html
If you would like to discuss the political motivations or opinions on this, please go to this thread in OMNI/PR https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni...-protests.html
For non-CX impact on travel to HK, please go to this thread in HK/Macau https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hong...ns-travel.html
If you would like to discuss the political motivations or opinions on this, please go to this thread in OMNI/PR https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni...-protests.html
CX Banned (kind of) by China
Aug 10, 2019, 10:17 am
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Aug 10, 2019, 10:21 am
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Aug 10, 2019, 10:27 am
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But that is just my view. I guess FT would prefer to keep this thread into a "will this affect my flight / route / planned travel" type update area instead.
Aug 10, 2019, 10:33 am
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You do not know then how ICAO operates. They cannot ban anyone from International Airspace. ICAO has a council just like the Security Council too. If they are to ban bullies half the western world and the Russians and Chinese and some middle east countries would be banned. Actually International airspace is exactly that.
Aug 10, 2019, 10:48 am
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That is CX’s decision. China has the right to say who is welcome and who isn’t in their country. CX could have staffed them on flights to SEA, Oceania among others. If China really wanted to they could have just said no flying through Chinese airspace if you don’t can all those protesters. Don’t kid yourself in thinking that China is the special snowflake here.
Aug 10, 2019, 10:55 am
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That is CX’s decision. China has the right to say who is welcome and who isn’t in their country. CX could have staffed them on flights to SEA, Oceania among others. If China really wanted to they could have just said no flying through Chinese airspace if you don’t can all those protesters. Don’t kid yourself in thinking that China is the special snowflake here.
Aug 10, 2019, 11:08 am
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I understand the different purposes of Omni and this forum. But when you have an unprecedented political event that is heavily, heavily involving both Cathay Pacific and Hong Kong, you are going to find that a purely non-political discussion will prove very hard to achieve, and what is left of the discussion after all political posts are deleted will be vastly incomplete.
But that is just my view. I guess FT would prefer to keep this thread into a "will this affect my flight / route / planned travel" type update area instead.
But that is just my view. I guess FT would prefer to keep this thread into a "will this affect my flight / route / planned travel" type update area instead.
As the mod has clearly pointed out, there's a better place to vent and discuss if you'd wish to, so please stop hijacking this thread before it's closed so that people could still calmly and unbiasedly discuss the repercussions on their travel plans and CX ops in light of this warning.
Aug 10, 2019, 11:17 am
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Right there, this attitude that we are protesting we are the victim so the whole world has to stop whatever it's doing and listen to us, support us. I mean, I totally understand and support HK people's demand but am just wary of people hijacking every discussion into a political one.
As the mod has clearly pointed out, there's a better place to vent and discuss if you'd wish to, so please stop hijacking this thread before it's closed so that people could still calmly and unbiasedly discuss the repercussions on their travel plans and CX ops in light of this warning.
As the mod has clearly pointed out, there's a better place to vent and discuss if you'd wish to, so please stop hijacking this thread before it's closed so that people could still calmly and unbiasedly discuss the repercussions on their travel plans and CX ops in light of this warning.
And the enormity of this event, and how long it has lasted, has taken a heavy toll on all residents. I apologize if we have overly pushed our agenda and can only ask for understanding from the rest of the world.
Aug 10, 2019, 11:18 am
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That’s your subjective opinion. You can read between the lines for everything. I will let others make their own based on the facts.
Aug 10, 2019, 12:27 pm
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Looks like CAAC did not have anything against KA or UO. They are probably going to screen who’s arrested.
Meanwhile, people think CX has kowtowed, but we don’t know if CX is going to reroute those Eu/NA overflights yet.
Meanwhile, people think CX has kowtowed, but we don’t know if CX is going to reroute those Eu/NA overflights yet.
Aug 10, 2019, 2:33 pm
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Aug 10, 2019, 4:35 pm
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I believe the notice is for CX only, and KA was not included. Perhaps CAAC is using this as their leverage, i. e., if CX cooperates, the new measure will not extend to KA (or UO).
Aug 10, 2019, 5:38 pm
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suspected to be CX crew, no media or official confirmation yet. BTW, FYI:
https://streamable.com/6bsjb
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...822076021&_rdr
https://streamable.com/6bsjb
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...822076021&_rdr