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Old May 24, 2018, 4:03 am
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New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html

Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/

New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 8:48 am
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so there's still no one carrier oneworld award chart? the search is just spitting out some random values now
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Noticed that with these changes that we no longer are able to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 4:19 pm
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idk if it is a coding issue on CX's end, but just searching a high frequency route like TPE-HKG yields results in Nov, Dec of this year. All in Y, none in F/J which is weird.

However, long haul route yields nothing in any cabin, even at the furthest end of the calendar in June 2019. When I reached out to CX Twitter about this issue, an agent responded with:

"There was a system update during 22Jun. However, the update should have been completed. If you are other airline frequent flyer program member, you could check with them again. If you're our member, please provide your membership details and we'll can advise Asia Miles / Marco Polo team to follow-up of your request."

I've sent a followup with screenshots asking if they can have their IT dept research if it is a coding issue.
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by wtcmor
All cx J availability from Australia seems to have gone
same in the U.S.!
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by staticx813
same in the U.S.!
That is not my experience. Both yesterday and today, I have found ample J CX availability searching routes LAX-BKK or LAX-SIN for Asia Miles. The low level "Standard" saver awards may not be as plentiful as before the change, but they are there. 85,000 points each way for LAX->BKK or SIN. I haven't had the time or desire to go checking other routes and a wide range of dates.
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Old Jun 23, 2018, 6:44 pm
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seems like the standard J awards are no longer available less then 3 months out, effectively a 55% increase in required miles for the route I was looking at (HKG-SYD).

last minute J availability which I used regularly now only at the choice level.

if this is maintained it's a huge devaluation in the program, hopefully it doesn't stick like when the P1/2 awards were introduced....

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Old Jun 23, 2018, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by yohy
seems like the standard J awards are no longer available less then 3 months out,
Not true on HKG-TPE, i can see ample standard J seats in early July. That said, i am not going to spend 16000 miles one way on such a short journey, let alone those idiotic choice/tailored awards.
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by marcommm
Not true on HKG-TPE, i can see ample standard J seats in early July. That said, i am not going to spend 16000 miles one way on such a short journey, let alone those idiotic choice/tailored awards.
They're gone from the BA website.
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 3:26 am
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Did 2 random routes using BA,

1. HKG-PVG has no availability until Sept 19, 2018, then it become abundant again (Y only).
2. TPE-HKG no availability for the whole month of Dec 2018.

This is bad...
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 4:38 am
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Is there a rule that all oneworld airlines have to make available the same (or almost the same) award inventory to their partners and cannot hold back?
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by IncyWincy
Is there a rule that all oneworld airlines have to make available the same (or almost the same) award inventory to their partners and cannot hold back?
Yes in theory but we are pretty certain it is not adhered to by CX. That is why grAAber and grASper threads on CX say use BA and QF search engines to locate availability:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...aster-thd.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...ilability.html
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by IncyWincy
Is there a rule that all oneworld airlines have to make available the same (or almost the same) award inventory to their partners and cannot hold back?
Also furthermore there is no prohibition on OW FFPs creating own-program priority reward inventory (AA: saver/standard/anytime) or clearing against own-program waitlists (QF).
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 7:20 am
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so there's still no one carrier oneworld award chart?????????????????????????????????????????
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
so there's still no one carrier oneworld award chart?????????????????????????????????????????
You mean Oneworld Multi Carrier award right? It is in this link "New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-...ard-chart.html " from Wiki of this thread.
Is it that difficult to find that out yourself?
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Old Jun 24, 2018, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
so there's still no one carrier oneworld award chart?????????????????????????????????????????
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html

No chart available but you can search flight by flight
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