Stealing from CX planes
#46
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Originally Posted by Ann Tyrol
But where does this stop? Cutlery? Blankets? Noise Cancelling Headphones?
Elite travellers must be among the worst of petty pilferers. Some Qantas lounges will ask for your boarding pass before giving you a towel to use the shower. I've forgotten how many towels they told me went walking before they adopted this measure. In the old days these urchins would take the modem cables from the lounges. Qantas even told me that the phones themselves were disappearing.
It's wrong no matter who does it or who they steal it from. But it particularly galls me when it's perpetrated against such a customer-responsive airline as CX. Evidently the best service and the nicest FAs are too good for these glorified cutpurses, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are dressed in suits and sport impeccable manners. The most frustrating thing is that almost nothing can be done about it. As some have observed, the airline can't risk making a mistake and offending an honest passenger. What might happen eventually is that the airline will simply stop using these cute pebble shakers. A minor loss, perhaps, but something of what defines CX would be lost.
#47
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Originally Posted by Antiqantas
The most frustrating thing is that almost nothing can be done about it.
#48
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it doesn't matter whether a notice is placed. customers especially those who think they paid for it will still pilfer. And i think that customers from down under as well as the americas are just as bad if not wose than asian customers. These customers will even have no shame trying to argue and make wild accusations about staff attitude to get what they want.
#49
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by B-HQC
My take on this is that the numbers lost are insignificant, and confronting premium passengers about such minor issues would do much more harm than good due to the loss of goodwill.
I am absolutely appalled at the way a SQ FA allegedly handled such an incident as reported by Mr. Moderator. The tone of the FAs comments is beyond rude and untactful. Even more disturbing is that the FA verbally (indirectly) accused the passenger of stealing even though his accusation was based entirely on the fact that the said items were missing from the meal tray. His comments were extremely inappropriate in the first place. But what if the items were really dropped onto the floor under the seat inadvertently? If I was in the shoes of the passenger I would have been so enraged that I would write a very strongly worded letter to the Management and would consider filing a lawsuit against SQ for undue emotional distress.
This incident in my opinion is grounds for immediate termination for the FA and I would be surprised to learn that SQ (or any respectable airline) would disagree.
I am absolutely appalled at the way a SQ FA allegedly handled such an incident as reported by Mr. Moderator. The tone of the FAs comments is beyond rude and untactful. Even more disturbing is that the FA verbally (indirectly) accused the passenger of stealing even though his accusation was based entirely on the fact that the said items were missing from the meal tray. His comments were extremely inappropriate in the first place. But what if the items were really dropped onto the floor under the seat inadvertently? If I was in the shoes of the passenger I would have been so enraged that I would write a very strongly worded letter to the Management and would consider filing a lawsuit against SQ for undue emotional distress.
This incident in my opinion is grounds for immediate termination for the FA and I would be surprised to learn that SQ (or any respectable airline) would disagree.
#50
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Originally Posted by B-HQC
His comments were extremely inappropriate in the first place. But what if the items were really dropped onto the floor under the seat inadvertently? If I was in the shoes of the passenger I would have been so enraged that I would write a very strongly worded letter to the Management and would consider filing a lawsuit against SQ for undue emotional distress.
#51


Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by jjpb3
Agreed that the FA needed a referesher on customer service, a lesson in general courtesy, and a reprimand, but really now: a lawsuit? I take it you would also consider filing one if a member of the wait staff was extremely rude to you in a restaurant?
In general when a representative of a corporate entity directly or indirectly accuses a customer of a crime and their accusations turn out to be false the corporate entity opens themselves up for possible litigation.
In the retail industry, before acting on a suspected theft, it is universally known that the following steps should have been satisfied to prevent legal repercussions:
1. You must see the shoplifter approach your merchandise
2. You must see the shoplifter select your merchandise
3. You must see the shoplifter conceal or carry away or convert your merchandise
4. You must maintain continuous observation the shoplifter
5. You must see the shoplifter fail to pay for the merchandise
6. You must approach the shoplifter outside of the store
These steps, adapted for the location of the alleged incident would likely be
1. You must see the accused take your merchandise
2. You must see the accused conceal or put away or convert your merchandise
3. You must maintain continuous observation the accused
4. You must approach the accused outside of the plane.
In the alleged incident, none (0/4) of these steps have been taken.
Let's take a look at what the FA allegedly said once again
Mr SO and SO, do you happen to know where the wonderful porcelain salt and pepper shakers have gone? They seem to have lept off your tray for some reason... maybe on the floor somewhere? Can you check? Or else I might have to get into your seat and check around.. I wouldn't want to find them in maybe the seat pocket, or maybe even in someone else's bag, you know
Last edited by B-HQC; Nov 14, 2006 at 9:25 am
#52

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: london & tokyo
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
Actually poor people don't steal.. only the rich ones.. and that is why they remain rich..
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So I am not insinuating anything... I write it as I see it.
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So I am not insinuating anything... I write it as I see it.

