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thomas164 Jul 15, 2025 2:39 am


Originally Posted by mckerrow (Post 37205566)

The changes seemed logical, nothing drastic and expected. I kind of thought they would introduce a more fundamental change tbh.

- Reduction on Economy light.
- No change in Economy essential and Flex except slight increase in short haul cat 2.
- Increase in F/J/PEY, most significant increase in long haul F and Business flex.

midlevels Jul 15, 2025 2:41 am

I wonder if there is any effect on partner bookings or if these changes are going to apply to CX only. There was no mention of this.

Generally I think the changes are okay as far as CX goes. Minor tweaks but they do make sense.

G-CIVC Jul 15, 2025 2:56 am

To avoid being accused of spreading ‘unverified information’ - there’s nothing further in terms of updates for now

I personally look forward to the day where we can all ‘save time’ and don’t ever need to bother with asking questions like ‘can we do a turnaround in ICN?’ or ‘Should I buy ex Europe to Japan tickets’ anymore - instead all we need to do is just go on CX website, buy the ex-HKG ticket simple and straightforward and be appropriately rewarded :) we wouldn’t even have to complain that the ex-outport married segment reduced inventory is affecting the usability of Bookable upgrades as well. We wouldn’t lament the loss of the BKKSIN tag along flight anymore as well. And also perhaps the XMN flights wouldn’t need to be operated by A330s only to have the bulk of people up front taking the same plane back.

and perhaps we can finally enjoy some peace of mind in the lounges and not suffer from disproportionately long F boarding lines / an overcrowded podium check in like today… some time in the future

CX860 Jul 15, 2025 2:57 am


Originally Posted by CXj3j24 (Post 37205575)
the next move we shd expect is the introduction of DMP?

Or an increase in the number of points required to make tier surely?

CX860 Jul 15, 2025 2:59 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37205605)
and perhaps we can finally enjoy some peace of mind in the lounges and not suffer from disproportionately long F boarding lines / an overcrowded podium check in like today… some time in the future

Doesn't this do the opposite? It just creates more people at every tier?

SLGO Jul 15, 2025 3:04 am

The changes are appreciated, which is in line with the principle to reward members more who generally pay more in respect of the cabin and/or ticket type. While long-haul increment is subtle, it kind of further widen the gap of earnings between CX and other OW airlines.

entflight Jul 15, 2025 3:21 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37205605)
To avoid being accused of spreading ‘unverified information’ - there’s nothing further in terms of updates for now

Without knowing the bigger context - if and how they would further restructure the Cathay membership scheme, it still leaves much uncertainty for members to plan ahead.

SLGO Jul 15, 2025 3:22 am


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 37205588)
I wonder if there is any effect on partner bookings or if these changes are going to apply to CX only. There was no mention of this.

Generally I think the changes are okay as far as CX goes. Minor tweaks but they do make sense.

Just read this from FAQ “Status Points and Asia Miles earned on flights marketed by oneworld and partner airlines remain unchanged.”

thomas164 Jul 15, 2025 3:26 am


Originally Posted by entflight (Post 37205623)
Without knowing the bigger context - if and how they would further restructure the Cathay membership scheme, it still leaves much uncertainty for members to plan ahead.

Do people here prefer small changes every now and then, or a large revamp at once (eg. Devaluing silver as shown by boarding group trials, and the rumoured DMP)?

G-CIVC Jul 15, 2025 3:27 am


Originally Posted by entflight (Post 37205623)
Without knowing the bigger context - if and how they would further restructure the Cathay membership scheme, it still leaves much uncertainty for members to plan ahead.

Perhaps - management’s view is if you have to ‘plan ahead’, you are probably not their target member / customer :)

entflight Jul 15, 2025 3:40 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37205628)
Perhaps - management’s view is if you have to ‘plan ahead’, you are probably not their target member / customer :)

Prudent management probably understand that besides the big spenders who are not price or value conscious, they also need loyal customers at every level of the business to grow a sustainable one. I hope they are not this short-sighted. For those passengers who are not price or value -conscious, they could just switch whenever someone else offers shinier and flashier things. And at least in the short-term, CX might have limited room to maneuver when it comes to offering shinier, flashier things.

CX860 Jul 15, 2025 4:51 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37205628)
Perhaps - management’s view is if you have to ‘plan ahead’, you are probably not their target member / customer :)

I would say the complete opposite. They are clearly trying to add value to/create an incentive for booking a higher cabin/fare. This change doesn't move the needle for price/value inelastic people - they are going to qualify with or without this change. If anything, this is a negative for them because it makes it easier for others to qualify and creates more DMs/GOs/SLs. I don't understand how this works without creating/formalising DMP and/or increasing the thresholds for qualifying, but their FAQ says no change. They have to "balance the equation" somehow.

wadia13 Jul 15, 2025 4:56 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36879429)
Disclaimer: I did the survey and am bound by the confidentiality agreement. I will be very cryptic about it.

First, if you aren’t flying 1200+ SP a year, most of the rumoured changes does not affect you.

Second, if you only buy the cheapest economy ticket, the proposed change would strongly affect you.

Third, if you buy premium cabins, your life might be easier.

Have fun :)

Very prescient indeed, especially on your 2nd & 3rd points! :)

CXj3j24 Jul 15, 2025 5:42 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37205605)
To avoid being accused of spreading ‘unverified information’ - there’s nothing further in terms of updates for now

I personally look forward to the day where we can all ‘save time’ and don’t ever need to bother with asking questions like ‘can we do a turnaround in ICN?’ or ‘Should I buy ex Europe to Japan tickets’ anymore - instead all we need to do is just go on CX website, buy the ex-HKG ticket simple and straightforward and be appropriately rewarded :) we wouldn’t even have to complain that the ex-outport married segment reduced inventory is affecting the usability of Bookable upgrades as well. We wouldn’t lament the loss of the BKKSIN tag along flight anymore as well. And also perhaps the XMN flights wouldn’t need to be operated by A330s only to have the bulk of people up front taking the same plane back.

and perhaps we can finally enjoy some peace of mind in the lounges and not suffer from disproportionately long F boarding lines / an overcrowded podium check in like today… some time in the future

The thing is CX’s hybrid business model adds a lot complexity to it right. The transit business is what makes CX a global player. You can’t count on HKese /HK as a financial hub filling all the 5 daily to LHR. Meanwhile, these high ex HKG fares do nudge up CX’s operating margins.

wadia13 Jul 15, 2025 8:07 am


Originally Posted by entflight (Post 37205623)
Without knowing the bigger context - if and how they would further restructure the Cathay membership scheme, it still leaves much uncertainty for members to plan ahead.

Few things are certain in life and airline membership programs and how they'll evolve is certainly NOT one of them! Not sure what I can say if you find that unbearable. I could say switch to another airline/airline alliance but you'll likely have as much uncertainty there as well (or even more).


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