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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 9:21 am
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Cheaper CX tickets from CA?

I was trying to buy a RT HKG-PEK flight, and found that CX is selling them at a price of HKD $4500+ (Fare Class M). However, CA (Air China) is selling the same tickets (although they are under CA's flight numbers) for about HKD $3000 (Air China's Fare Class V). Are there any downsides if I purchase the tickets from CA? I should be able to earn MPC and Asia Miles credits just as if I were flying a V-Class ticket on CX, right?
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
I was trying to buy a RT HKG-PEK flight, and found that CX is selling them at a price of HKD $4500+ (Fare Class M). However, CA (Air China) is selling the same tickets (although they are under CA's flight numbers) for about HKD $3000 (Air China's Fare Class V). Are there any downsides if I purchase the tickets from CA? I should be able to earn MPC and Asia Miles credits just as if I were flying a V-Class ticket on CX, right?
AM at reduced rate and no MPO. Also no lounge for MPO members.
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 3:28 pm
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Hi,

I would be careful about booking this cheaper fare if you want MPC credit and Asia miles.

Is it an Air china Flight number and a Air china operated flight or Air china Flight number and Cathay metal ( ie CX XXX sold as CA XXX)
I think Unless there is a CX flight number on the ticket you will not get MPC credit but you should get Asia miles regardless

Cathay pacific experts should be able to give more advice

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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 7:58 pm
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Its CX.... sold as CA....

i was under the impression we can get Asia miles but Im unsure as to MPC points and lounge access...
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
AM at reduced rate and no MPO. Also no lounge for MPO members.
Thanks for your reply! So no MPC benefits at all even if it is a flight operated CX (but with a CA flight number)?
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot
Hi,

I would be careful about booking this cheaper fare if you want MPC credit and Asia miles.

Is it an Air china Flight number and a Air china operated flight or Air china Flight number and Cathay metal ( ie CX XXX sold as CA XXX)
I think Unless there is a CX flight number on the ticket you will not get MPC credit but you should get Asia miles regardless

Cathay pacific experts should be able to give more advice

Regards

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Thanks for your reply! The flights I wanted were both CX metal (one is KA metal, if it matters) with CA flight numbers. So based on the replies so far, it seems that such flights will only qualify for a reduced Asia Miles credits and no MPC benefits at all?
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
Thanks for your reply! The flights I wanted were both CX metal (one is KA metal, if it matters) with CA flight numbers. So based on the replies so far, it seems that such flights will only qualify for a reduced Asia Miles credits and no MPC benefits at all?
You will earn AM based on the CA chart here https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi...html/air-china and you are not supposed to be able to enter the lounge because https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...-POLO-CLUB_1_2 makes it pretty clear that it is only for:
- flights marketed, but not necessarily operated, by Cathay Pacific or Cathay Dragon; and [SL, GO, and DM]
- flights marketed and operated by oneworld carriers [GO and DM]
I suppose there is a chance that they still allow you to enter the lounge, but please be aware that you are not entitled. I don't think they would disallow you to use J check-in desk and I guess you can argue that the extra baggage allowance still applies because it only mentions "CX and KA flights" without specifying the marketing carrier.
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
You will earn AM based on the CA chart here https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi...html/air-china and you are not supposed to be able to enter the lounge because https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...-POLO-CLUB_1_2 makes it pretty clear that it is only for:

I suppose there is a chance that they still allow you to enter the lounge, but please be aware that you are not entitled. I don't think they would disallow you to use J check-in desk and I guess you can argue that the extra baggage allowance still applies because it only mentions "CX and KA flights" without specifying the marketing carrier.
Thanks a lot for your explanation! I now realize that these tickets sold by CA are cheaper for a reason!
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 8:15 am
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well, there are also jl codeshares on the kix route.
however, both cx and jl are in oneworld
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