Disappointed aircraft changed from lie flat bed to angle seat!
Jan 23, 2018, 12:04 am
#46
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Jan 23, 2018, 12:05 am
#47
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To prevent such angst CX should just put the seat maps as regional (instead of LH).
And if you get LH product, you are in luck and people will be happier (I guess people who select bassinet or emergency or bulkseat will need to continue to check!)
What happens behind scene and inventory management, we do not need to know.
And if you get LH product, you are in luck and people will be happier (I guess people who select bassinet or emergency or bulkseat will need to continue to check!)
What happens behind scene and inventory management, we do not need to know.
Jan 23, 2018, 2:09 am
#48
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Well, the OP is the one moaning and he/she paid Avios, which is AFAIK the hands down cheapest way to book that seat. That's kinda my point. I don't have too much sympathy here given what a great deal those Avios J fares are anyway. And I'd say the OP still got a good deal even with the angled seat. Where it sucks is if you're paying real money and get the swap.
20k Avios HKG-SIN one-way but point taken - that is still the fare for a regional J, non-lie flat seat.
I did suggest CX sell long-haul J on regional routes as First to avoid any expectations shortfall https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...ling-idea.html
I did suggest CX sell long-haul J on regional routes as First to avoid any expectations shortfall https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...ling-idea.html
Jan 23, 2018, 2:21 am
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Jan 23, 2018, 2:23 am
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Jan 23, 2018, 3:27 am
#51
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Value in monetary term? If so, then J def worths multiple x than Y. I fly HKG-SIN monthly... roundtrip J is consistently priced at around $17k HKD (all year round ex-HKG fare, excluding special promotion such as the premium bundle deal recently) whilst a cheapo roundtrip Y is around $2k, even cheaper if fanfare!
Jan 23, 2018, 4:10 am
#52
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Value in monetary term? If so, then J def worths multiple x than Y. I fly HKG-SIN monthly... roundtrip J is consistently priced at around $17k HKD (all year round ex-HKG fare, excluding special promotion such as the premium bundle deal recently) whilst a cheapo roundtrip Y is around $2k, even cheaper if fanfare!
Rather be in emergency Y with a free seat beside (even if none that is ok) than pay double/triple in miles or cash. Dont lose out much on F&B nor seat space in that config.
But of course I guess some people do pay US$2K to fly CX HKG-SIN return in regional J so they should see some value there lol.
Jan 23, 2018, 5:08 am
#53
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I really don't understand why SQ can guarantee plane types for short hauls (say SIN-HKG) but CX cannot? Is it really that hard for CX to do? I mean SQ also has schedules with long haul flights so it is not like the scheduling issue is a CX only issue.....
Jan 23, 2018, 7:13 am
#55
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I would pick SQ regional over CX regional right now in J given that SQ's 'regional' was previously their LH product before flatbeds were introduced. CX 'new' regional J is one of the worst cabin updates because it didn't take into account utilization during redeye flights and comfort of recline.
Jan 23, 2018, 9:26 am
#56
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I would pick SQ regional over CX regional right now in J given that SQ's 'regional' was previously their LH product before flatbeds were introduced. CX 'new' regional J is one of the worst cabin updates because it didn't take into account utilization during redeye flights and comfort of recline.
SQ knows HKG is a premium market, which is why they deploy their aircraft with long-haul products, both old and new. That said, you’ll still get one or two flights a day without the long-haul product, but those are planned in advance and aren’t equipment swaps, making them quite easy to avoid if you so choose.
OTOH, their regional products are used on 6-8 hour redeyes around Asia-Pacific. With CX you generally won’t have to worry about getting regional J on flights of such duration.
Jan 23, 2018, 9:49 am
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Jan 23, 2018, 10:25 am
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Jan 23, 2018, 11:03 am
#59
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I recently booked a Cathay Pacific regional flight using BA Avios - it was in A350 J. Both regional J and long haul J require the same Avios, and cash prices for both are the same. So I see it as booking regional J and getting long haul J as a nice bonus.
Jan 23, 2018, 11:08 am
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Why didn't you get your own plane then instead of flying with CX who put a wrinkle in your coat? Boohoohoo