Renew cut off early?
Oct 26, 2017, 2:40 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 56
Renew cut off early?
I am due for renew this month and I already made the 1200 club points for the renewal. I have more trips coming up later this month. Is there a way I can let MP know to renew immediately so the points counter is set to zero and I accrue next year club point a bit ahead?
Nov 2, 2017, 5:44 am
#3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM
Posts: 14
Yes, just call them and ask them to reset. I had done it for the last 2 years.
Aug 16, 2018, 2:28 am
#4
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: HK
Programs: Qantas (Lifetime Gold), PAL (Elite), British Airways (now sadly blue), Cathay MPO DM
Posts: 647
OK - would like some advice. I'm diamond with Cathay and currently have 1245 Tier Credits. My year ends 31 October. I have firm plans for flights totalling 340 Tier Credits before 31 October leaving me 15 short of the Bookable Upgrade 1600. I achieved 1600 two years ago, and did manage to eventually use the upgrades, but found it very hard and the value of them not as high as I had imagined. I could easily go on a status run for those 15 if needed.
For my holidays after 31 October, two major trips are already booked - one is using points on BA; the other on another airline entirely. I usually two 3 major trips per annum, meaning only 1 out of the 3 will nett me any TC next year. My business trips are typically to Manila, I estimate that on my normal pattern of travel I will get around 700 TC from them next year. By my estimate, that means I can easily get to around 900TC, but the final 300 might be tough. So am considering renewing now, to nett the extra from the next few weeks, which are planned to be quite intense.
My question is - am I missing anything in this analysis? I am losing 2.5 months of certain Diamond in the hope of renewing. My travel plans may be quite different next year. Any insights appreciated. Probably need to decide tomorrow.....
For my holidays after 31 October, two major trips are already booked - one is using points on BA; the other on another airline entirely. I usually two 3 major trips per annum, meaning only 1 out of the 3 will nett me any TC next year. My business trips are typically to Manila, I estimate that on my normal pattern of travel I will get around 700 TC from them next year. By my estimate, that means I can easily get to around 900TC, but the final 300 might be tough. So am considering renewing now, to nett the extra from the next few weeks, which are planned to be quite intense.
My question is - am I missing anything in this analysis? I am losing 2.5 months of certain Diamond in the hope of renewing. My travel plans may be quite different next year. Any insights appreciated. Probably need to decide tomorrow.....
Aug 16, 2018, 8:21 am
#5
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CGK
Programs: SQ TPP28, CX DM, DL P, GA CB, WOH LGLOB, HH D, MB G, Hertz P
Posts: 2,884
Do you mind elaborating why the mid tier upgrades were hard, fairhsa? I am in similar situation and will hit 1600< this year but thought about early reset as well as an option - but that means shortening my current DM year by 1-2 months.
Gold mid-tier upgrades were totally useless. Not many Regional routes have F to upgrade to from J. Allowed subclasses in PY and Y for upgrading are too expensive, buying the discounted next higher class tickets made more sense.
Gold mid-tier upgrades were totally useless. Not many Regional routes have F to upgrade to from J. Allowed subclasses in PY and Y for upgrading are too expensive, buying the discounted next higher class tickets made more sense.
Aug 16, 2018, 8:44 am
#6
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,954
OK - would like some advice. I'm diamond with Cathay and currently have 1245 Tier Credits. My year ends 31 October. I have firm plans for flights totalling 340 Tier Credits before 31 October leaving me 15 short of the Bookable Upgrade 1600. I achieved 1600 two years ago, and did manage to eventually use the upgrades, but found it very hard and the value of them not as high as I had imagined. I could easily go on a status run for those 15 if needed.
For my holidays after 31 October, two major trips are already booked - one is using points on BA; the other on another airline entirely. I usually two 3 major trips per annum, meaning only 1 out of the 3 will nett me any TC next year. My business trips are typically to Manila, I estimate that on my normal pattern of travel I will get around 700 TC from them next year. By my estimate, that means I can easily get to around 900TC, but the final 300 might be tough. So am considering renewing now, to nett the extra from the next few weeks, which are planned to be quite intense.
My question is - am I missing anything in this analysis? I am losing 2.5 months of certain Diamond in the hope of renewing. My travel plans may be quite different next year. Any insights appreciated. Probably need to decide tomorrow.....
For my holidays after 31 October, two major trips are already booked - one is using points on BA; the other on another airline entirely. I usually two 3 major trips per annum, meaning only 1 out of the 3 will nett me any TC next year. My business trips are typically to Manila, I estimate that on my normal pattern of travel I will get around 700 TC from them next year. By my estimate, that means I can easily get to around 900TC, but the final 300 might be tough. So am considering renewing now, to nett the extra from the next few weeks, which are planned to be quite intense.
My question is - am I missing anything in this analysis? I am losing 2.5 months of certain Diamond in the hope of renewing. My travel plans may be quite different next year. Any insights appreciated. Probably need to decide tomorrow.....
If I were you, I would not early reset your membership, but just retroactively claim and credit the flights to next membership year (if you do not find any value in hitting 1,600 CP).
Aug 16, 2018, 8:55 am
#7
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: TPE, CGK
Programs: GFF Plat, CX DM, SQ TPPS, AS 75K
Posts: 199
Similar situation here... my year renews on 1 Apr but I've already hit 1220 TP. My plan though is to claim some points to Alaska beyond 1600 (and fly more SQ / EK long haul).
Wish that CX had a "reserve" TP system similar to SQ
Wish that CX had a "reserve" TP system similar to SQ
Aug 16, 2018, 9:44 pm
#8
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: HK
Programs: Qantas (Lifetime Gold), PAL (Elite), British Airways (now sadly blue), Cathay MPO DM
Posts: 647
I am currently sitting at 1,205 Club Points, but my membership year does not end until 31.Jan. I do not intend to early reset, as that would effectively shorten my Diamond status by almost 6 months. I will not put my MPC number on my upcoming flights for the rest of this year (estimate another 500 CP minimum), and will just retroactively claim on 01.Feb and apply the CP to the new membership year. I am still sitting on last year's 4 bookable upgrades (must use by 31.Jan), and intend to apply them to flights next year. I do not need the bookable upgrades from this year's membership year because I will probably burn a lot of points next year to take F on a few flights.
If I were you, I would not early reset your membership, but just retroactively claim and credit the flights to next membership year (if you do not find any value in hitting 1,600 CP).
If I were you, I would not early reset your membership, but just retroactively claim and credit the flights to next membership year (if you do not find any value in hitting 1,600 CP).
Aug 16, 2018, 9:48 pm
#9
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: HK
Programs: Qantas (Lifetime Gold), PAL (Elite), British Airways (now sadly blue), Cathay MPO DM
Posts: 647
Do you mind elaborating why the mid tier upgrades were hard, fairhsa? I am in similar situation and will hit 1600< this year but thought about early reset as well as an option - but that means shortening my current DM year by 1-2 months.
Gold mid-tier upgrades were totally useless. Not many Regional routes have F to upgrade to from J. Allowed subclasses in PY and Y for upgrading are too expensive, buying the discounted next higher class tickets made more sense.
Gold mid-tier upgrades were totally useless. Not many Regional routes have F to upgrade to from J. Allowed subclasses in PY and Y for upgrading are too expensive, buying the discounted next higher class tickets made more sense.
1. You have to book 15 days in advance which completely removed all chance of using them for work, and even some holidays
2. You have to purchase a pretty expensive fare in the first place to be able to use them - since I'm only interested in upgrading to J or F, the best option for me was I -> A - which means if I get them another trip to Vancouver might be in the offing since there was pretty much nowhere else that made sense (and I wanted to go to!). I tried upgrading PEY to J, and I found that it was MORE EXPENSIVE to buy the PEY fare required than it was to buy a discounted J class fare, either on a different airline or by flying ex TPE!
SO basically, same experience as you with your gold upgrades.
Aug 18, 2018, 10:10 am
#10
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SYD | HGH
Programs: CX DM, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton DM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,121
I am currently sitting at 1,205 Club Points, but my membership year does not end until 31.Jan. I do not intend to early reset, as that would effectively shorten my Diamond status by almost 6 months. I will not put my MPC number on my upcoming flights for the rest of this year (estimate another 500 CP minimum), and will just retroactively claim on 01.Feb and apply the CP to the new membership year. I am still sitting on last year's 4 bookable upgrades (must use by 31.Jan), and intend to apply them to flights next year. I do not need the bookable upgrades from this year's membership year because I will probably burn a lot of points next year to take F on a few flights.
If I were you, I would not early reset your membership, but just retroactively claim and credit the flights to next membership year (if you do not find any value in hitting 1,600 CP).
If I were you, I would not early reset your membership, but just retroactively claim and credit the flights to next membership year (if you do not find any value in hitting 1,600 CP).
Aug 18, 2018, 10:58 pm
#12
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX GO
Posts: 71
I thought for early renewal, you can do it in the month of expiry, so for example, if it was 31 August, you could call them 1 August and renew, so you can collect August as well without shortening your membership cycle?
Aug 19, 2018, 5:50 am
#13
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: HKG
Programs: CX DM, *G (ASIANA); GS DM, Hilton Gold
Posts: 85
Have you considered manually crediting the remaining tcs after membership renewal? This would involve removing MUC number prior to boarding and then manually crediting in new membership year.
Aug 19, 2018, 1:04 pm
#14
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
Aug 19, 2018, 6:47 pm
#15
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,954
Done this many times...the Lounge attendants enter the MPC number into their system to confirm access, but the number does not get input to the booking/boarding pass. Or, if you physically check in at the counters, the attendants will enter the MPC number to issue the Lounge pass, but not associate the number with the booking/boarding pass.