New regional business class in 2019
May 16, 2017, 1:00 am
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Sort of understand the rational... Since FB on 320 might either take up too many spaces or the seat will feel cramped....
As I pointed out some time last year, QR also managed to install 8 FB into their A320 fleet... Just the seat is quite tight and don't expect the same level of comfort as long haul FB product... Thus, to me at least, a better designed recliner seat might be better for the A320 than a tight FB or an inclined FB...
As I pointed out some time last year, QR also managed to install 8 FB into their A320 fleet... Just the seat is quite tight and don't expect the same level of comfort as long haul FB product... Thus, to me at least, a better designed recliner seat might be better for the A320 than a tight FB or an inclined FB...
Respectfully disagree. Flew AA transcon F class which uses the Cirrus seat and it works just fine on an A321.
For the prices CX/KA charge for regional business flyers should expect a fully-flat bed.
May 16, 2017, 1:15 am
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But AA's A321 is skewedly premium (102 pax only) and if anything CX regional configs are going less and less premium. Still, I don't disagree with you at all that a flatbed configuration is 'doable'. In fact it's exactly the same plane that you mention but J class (which is the B/E Diamond product, also used by QR on their A320s/A330s/A340s and RJ(?), UA, CA,...etc). It's not the most comfy seat for a 16 hour flight but it will be wonderful to like Sapporo or Singapore. Very space saving config I think the pitch is like 50" or less and CX can fit the same number of seats across each row as they do now.
May 16, 2017, 11:41 pm
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May 17, 2017, 2:56 am
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But AA's A321 is skewedly premium (102 pax only) and if anything CX regional configs are going less and less premium. Still, I don't disagree with you at all that a flatbed configuration is 'doable'. In fact it's exactly the same plane that you mention but J class (which is the B/E Diamond product, also used by QR on their A320s/A330s/A340s and RJ(?), UA, CA,...etc). It's not the most comfy seat for a 16 hour flight but it will be wonderful to like Sapporo or Singapore. Very space saving config I think the pitch is like 50" or less and CX can fit the same number of seats across each row as they do now.
Jan 14, 2020, 10:20 pm
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Cathay Pacific: evolution, not revolution
The first half of 2020 will also see the debut of Cathay Pacific's Airbus A321neo – to be flown by its regional sibling Cathay Dragon – and a new regional business class seat.
However, the Oneworld member airline is not expected to radically depart from the same 'premium economy-like' design as its current regional business class, which began flying in January 2013 and borrowed some elements from an angled lie-flat or ‘sloping sleeper’ seat to weave them into the more conventional form of a recliner.
“I think it will be most likely reclinable because it is a narrow-body aircraft,” tips Vivian Lo, Cathay Pacific’s Head of Customer Experience & Design. “Basically we're still seeing the majority of the flights are below two hours, stretched to four and at most six" – flight durations which Lo suggests do not require the lie-flat luxury of a business class bed.
The A321neo fleet will see Cathay Dragon retire its ageing A320 jets, with both a larger passenger capacity to cater for popular destinations such as Beijing and Shanghai, and a longer range to extend the network's reach.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ur-way-in-2020
The first half of 2020 will also see the debut of Cathay Pacific's Airbus A321neo – to be flown by its regional sibling Cathay Dragon – and a new regional business class seat.
However, the Oneworld member airline is not expected to radically depart from the same 'premium economy-like' design as its current regional business class, which began flying in January 2013 and borrowed some elements from an angled lie-flat or ‘sloping sleeper’ seat to weave them into the more conventional form of a recliner.
“I think it will be most likely reclinable because it is a narrow-body aircraft,” tips Vivian Lo, Cathay Pacific’s Head of Customer Experience & Design. “Basically we're still seeing the majority of the flights are below two hours, stretched to four and at most six" – flight durations which Lo suggests do not require the lie-flat luxury of a business class bed.
The A321neo fleet will see Cathay Dragon retire its ageing A320 jets, with both a larger passenger capacity to cater for popular destinations such as Beijing and Shanghai, and a longer range to extend the network's reach.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ur-way-in-2020
Jan 15, 2020, 12:44 am
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Cathay Pacific: evolution, not revolution
The first half of 2020 will also see ... a new regional business class seat.
... the Oneworld member airline is not expected to radically depart from the same 'premium economy-like' design as its current regional business class...
The first half of 2020 will also see ... a new regional business class seat.
... the Oneworld member airline is not expected to radically depart from the same 'premium economy-like' design as its current regional business class...
Jan 15, 2020, 12:49 am
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Jan 15, 2020, 12:52 am
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Jan 15, 2020, 2:11 am
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Jan 15, 2020, 2:36 am
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I usually revert it to the take off position after 15 mins of fussing around with the 'recline' in a failed effort to find a comfy configuration (it seems I forget this lesson and have to re-learn it each flight). Quite a comment on the seat that it is less comfortable in the recline position...
Jan 15, 2020, 4:47 am
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Jan 15, 2020, 5:20 am
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So old CX recliners for regional? https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post31918866 (ignoring long haul products in regional of course)