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percysmith May 21, 2018 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by MikeBOS (Post 29779704)
I have searched but not found the answer to this: my son is ticketed BOS-HKG R/T in October in J. I booked these tickets for him at T-360, but he has since moved to NY and would rather get on either the JFK or EWR flights if possible. Both are waitlist only. Can I waitlist those segments in his existing reservation even though the origin will be different from the currently ticketed flight? Or do I have to create a completely separate itinerary with two waitlisted segments and hope that both clear, then redeposit the original award?

Can waitlist. You will be set a T-4 deadline because of different routing.

ktken May 22, 2018 1:47 am

I am waitlisted for CX219 HKG-MAN in J for Jun 5, 6, 7. As I see in Expertflyer, the availability on Jun 6 is J9 C9 D9 I9. Will my waitlist be cleared in the coming few days? Thanks.

kaka May 22, 2018 1:52 am


Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll (Post 29758605)
What does this mean? Will 4 seats open up on this flight? I'm a noob when it comes to waitlisting.

yes.

MikeBOS May 22, 2018 5:28 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 29779929)
Can waitlist. You will be set a T-4 deadline because of different routing.

Great, thanks for the quick response!

AstralFox May 23, 2018 2:15 am

Hi all, read through the thread but still not 100% clear on this.

A few months ago I put SFO-HKG-SFO R/T on waitlist in both business and first; business cleared for both segments, while only the outbound has cleared for F. The outbound is 29/5, and the inbound is 11/6. The ticketing deadline is 25/5.

The MPC agent says that if I go ahead and ticket the full R/T now for 180k, with one segment in F and the other in J, once I take the outbound segment I won't be able to change the inbound to F even if space opens up and pay the $100 change fee. Is this a case where it would be advisable to ticket it as two one-ways instead? Or is it possible after I take the outbound to change the return segment from J to F? Thanks in advance.

watery May 23, 2018 2:59 am


Originally Posted by AstralFox (Post 29784515)
Hi all, read through the thread but still not 100% clear on this.

A few months ago I put SFO-HKG-SFO R/T on waitlist in both business and first; business cleared for both segments, while only the outbound has cleared for F. The outbound is 29/5, and the inbound is 11/6. The ticketing deadline is 25/5.

The MPC agent says that if I go ahead and ticket the full R/T now for 180k, with one segment in F and the other in J, once I take the outbound segment I won't be able to change the inbound to F even if space opens up and pay the $100 change fee. Is this a case where it would be advisable to ticket it as two one-ways instead? Or is it possible after I take the outbound to change the return segment from J to F? Thanks in advance.

Because the ticket has to be totally unused to be reissued.
Zone D F+J one-ways are 105k+70k = 175k < 180k so in case F doesn't clear it's less costly to do so.
Maybe you can ask them to ticket outbound as one-way; for inbound see if they can extend waitlist deadline, extended or not ask them to remark the 2 one-way records form a R/T, then if you later gets F, asks for the R/T refund afterward. You will need to have 105k x 2 = 210k during the process though, because afaik refund must come afterward

percysmith May 23, 2018 7:16 am

I don't think so
*Provided* the ticket was issued o/w F and o/w J <-- usually what happens, since o/w F is 130k, o/w J is 85k and r/t F is 220k (130+85 < 220)
The J can be separately reissued to F, even if the F is travelled
Then a r/t refund can be applied for on return to SFO (have to call AM)

I've done this at least twice:
- once for my SIL and niece going to my wedding. I remember starting with PE R/T, reissuing outbound to J before departure (so it becomes o/w J outbound and o/w PE inbound), reissuing inbound to J after outbound but before inbound date, then successfully claiming difference
- I've also attended a wedding in August where I started with Y R/T (uggh, it's a weekend turn to SYD), reissuing outbound to J before departure (so it becomes o/w J and o/w Y inbound), reissuing inbound to J on my way being driven across the Harbour Bridge to the wedding, then successfully claiming difference

"to remark the 2 one-way records form a R/T" <-- doesn't work. Must be same PNR. But two one-ways can exist in same PNR,

watery May 23, 2018 9:21 am

Thanks for correcting me with the more accurate procedures and hope it works out for AstralFox

AstralFox May 25, 2018 2:26 am

Thanks percysmith, was able to ticket the two one ways and stay on the waitlist for F on the return, plus extend the ticketing deadline. Will with the return J to F once (if) space opens up.

ktken May 25, 2018 8:19 pm

I am waitlisted for CX219 HKG-MAN in J for Jun 5, 6, 7. Will my waitlist be cleared in the coming few days? Thanks in advance.

Kilian Zoll May 29, 2018 3:40 am

Do CX not get as many award seats on Qatar Airways as BA? Looking at a QR flight with availability in J using Avios, but the flight is listed as "N/A" in the Asia Miles search engine.

percysmith May 29, 2018 8:08 am


Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll (Post 29804301)
Do CX not get as many award seats on Qatar Airways as BA? Looking at a QR flight with availability in J using Avios, but the flight is listed as "N/A" in the Asia Miles search engine.

Definitely: AM is always QR challenged:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...difficult.html

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...on-flight.html

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Rain187 May 29, 2018 8:06 pm

Hi, I am on waitlist again for the award, seems that I am not lucky with the waitlist system as most of my waitlist with CX never get cleared even i m a Gold. So I have made use of the quota this time on waitlist lol hopefully can get a seat for this weekend getaway. fingercross.

So, Does anyone can help to check if this time I have any chance?

13 Jul 2018
KA396 HKG -> HND

14 Jul 2018
CX524 HKG -> NRT
CX548 HKG -> HND
CX504 HKG -> NRT

15 Jul 2018
CX549 HND -> HKG
CX521 NRT -> HKG
CX505 NRT -> HKG

sethweinstein Jun 6, 2018 4:40 pm

Add segment when space clears?
 
I'm trying to do a one-way with a stopover, HKG-LHR (on 16 Aug) and then LHR-JFK (on BA) a couple of days later, in J. HKG-LHR has no availability; HKG-BRU does with a transit to BRU-LHR, but my understanding is that I can't ticket a three-flight one-way standard award even if it's one transit and one stopover, correct? And I can't have an "open jaw" in the middle of a one-way with stopover, right? (I'd be happy to go HKG-BRU // LHR-JFK if it can be ticketed as a one-way with stopover, and take the train to London.)

So I have waitlisted HKG-LHR direct. If it clears, and I call in to ticket it, will they allow me to add LHR-JFK to the reservation on BA if it's still available? Or will they consider that starting over?

I don't want to ticket LHR-JFK yet, because if HKG-LHR doesn't clear I'll explore other options, maybe turning it into a OneWorld award and going back to Hong Kong at some point in the future, or maybe doing it all on VS if the nonstops are still available.

Thanks,
Seth

percysmith Jun 6, 2018 11:46 pm

[QUOTE=sethweinstein;29837540]I'm trying to do a one-way with a stopover, HKG-LHR (on 16 Aug) and then LHR-JFK (on BA) a couple of days later, in J. HKG-LHR has no availability; HKG-BRU does with a transit to BRU-LHR, but my understanding is that I can't ticket a three-flight one-way standard award even if it's one transit and one stopover, correct?




Originally Posted by sethweinstein (Post 29837540)
And I can't have an "open jaw" in the middle of a one-way with stopover, right? (I'd be happy to go HKG-BRU // LHR-JFK if it can be ticketed as a one-way with stopover, and take the train to London.)


Correct


Originally Posted by sethweinstein (Post 29837540)
So I have waitlisted HKG-LHR direct. If it clears, and I call in to ticket it, will they allow me to add LHR-JFK to the reservation on BA if it's still available? Or will they consider that starting over?

Can


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