How exactly does CX Waitlist work for awards?
#631
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
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Posts: 22,125
Yvr uncle wanted to rebook a 4/3 CX889 YVR-HKG F redemption seat into 8-10/3
I've been waitlisting for him since Christmas, on one of those waitlists that has no end date (because it is rebooking)
On 3/3 there was 3F on 9/3, 1F on other days, no redemption available and waitlist not cleared
On 7/3 there was 1F on 9/3 and 2F on 10/3. Still no redemption seat. Uncle told me to reissue him in J on 9/3
on 8/3 4am yvr time there was 1 F redemption seat on 9/3. But it was too late for uncle - he says his bags are packed and won't change his plans.
I've been waitlisting for him since Christmas, on one of those waitlists that has no end date (because it is rebooking)
On 3/3 there was 3F on 9/3, 1F on other days, no redemption available and waitlist not cleared
On 7/3 there was 1F on 9/3 and 2F on 10/3. Still no redemption seat. Uncle told me to reissue him in J on 9/3
on 8/3 4am yvr time there was 1 F redemption seat on 9/3. But it was too late for uncle - he says his bags are packed and won't change his plans.
#632
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: n/a
Posts: 41
Would someone be so kind to help me look at award availability for these flights:
3/17/18 - CX845
3/17/18 - CX899
3/17/18 - CX841
3/16/18 - CX831
I would really appreciate it.
I am waitlisted on 2 3/17/18 flights, but I am afraid they will not clear. I would like to know the availability so, I know whether or not I will have to look at all other hub city's flights on that day (ORD,BOS,IAD,YYZ).
On another note, does anyone else find that CX cant book JAL awards at all? When I first booked this flight, I was trying to get NYC-TYO and BA showed availability, but CX said they couldnt see any seats. Same thing happened when I called today for 3/16/18 BOS-TYO, BA shows 3 seats, CX sees none. I am starting to think they cant book JAL at all.
3/17/18 - CX845
3/17/18 - CX899
3/17/18 - CX841
3/16/18 - CX831
I would really appreciate it.
I am waitlisted on 2 3/17/18 flights, but I am afraid they will not clear. I would like to know the availability so, I know whether or not I will have to look at all other hub city's flights on that day (ORD,BOS,IAD,YYZ).
On another note, does anyone else find that CX cant book JAL awards at all? When I first booked this flight, I was trying to get NYC-TYO and BA showed availability, but CX said they couldnt see any seats. Same thing happened when I called today for 3/16/18 BOS-TYO, BA shows 3 seats, CX sees none. I am starting to think they cant book JAL at all.
#633



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
Would someone be so kind to help me look at award availability for these flights:
3/17/18 - CX845
3/17/18 - CX899
3/17/18 - CX841
3/16/18 - CX831
I would really appreciate it.
I am waitlisted on 2 3/17/18 flights, but I am afraid they will not clear. I would like to know the availability so, I know whether or not I will have to look at all other hub city's flights on that day (ORD,BOS,IAD,YYZ).
On another note, does anyone else find that CX cant book JAL awards at all? When I first booked this flight, I was trying to get NYC-TYO and BA showed availability, but CX said they couldnt see any seats. Same thing happened when I called today for 3/16/18 BOS-TYO, BA shows 3 seats, CX sees none. I am starting to think they cant book JAL at all.
3/17/18 - CX845
3/17/18 - CX899
3/17/18 - CX841
3/16/18 - CX831
I would really appreciate it.
I am waitlisted on 2 3/17/18 flights, but I am afraid they will not clear. I would like to know the availability so, I know whether or not I will have to look at all other hub city's flights on that day (ORD,BOS,IAD,YYZ).
On another note, does anyone else find that CX cant book JAL awards at all? When I first booked this flight, I was trying to get NYC-TYO and BA showed availability, but CX said they couldnt see any seats. Same thing happened when I called today for 3/16/18 BOS-TYO, BA shows 3 seats, CX sees none. I am starting to think they cant book JAL at all.
Next time when you ask, please specify the origin and destination of these flights. I happen to have taken all of them so I know, but otherwise I would have to first start looking at where the flights are going from / to before I can look up availabilities.
Code:
BAL
OK BAL
116MARNYCHKGCX
AN16MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 4 FR 16MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J2 C2 D2 IL/EWR HKG 0110 05001 0/359 15:50
W4 R4 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S5 N3 Q1 OL
2 CX 845 F2 A2 J9 C7/JFK HKG 0125 05101 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 NL OL
3 CX 841 F2 A2 JL CL/JFK HKG 1000 14101 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W5 R4 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S3 N1 OL
4 CX 831 F3 A3 J2 C1/JFK HKG 1450 19051 0/77W 16:15
DL IL W2 R1 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
O9
5 CX 889 F2 A2 J2 C2/JFK HKG 2140 07052 1/77W 21:25
D2 I1 WL RL EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 F1 A1 J1 CL/BOS HKG 01301 05052 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W3 RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 NL OL
117MARNYCHKGCX
AN17MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 5 SA 17MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J1 CL DL IL/EWR HKG 0110 05001 0/359 15:50
WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L7 VL SL NL OL
2 CX 845 FL AL J4 CL/JFK HKG 0125 05101 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R2 E2 Y7 B6 H5 K3 M1 LL VL SL NL OL
3 CX 841 FL AL J2 CL/JFK HKG 1000 14101 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W2 R1 EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SL NL OL
4 CX 831 FL AL J4 C1/JFK HKG 1450 19051 0/77W 16:15
DL IL WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S3 N1 OL
5 CX 889 F1 A1 J5 C5/JFK HKG 2140 07052 1/77W 21:25
D5 I4 W2 R1 EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 FL AL J2 CL/BOS HKG 01301 05052 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W6 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 N9 Q9 O9
#634
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: n/a
Posts: 41
Don't know which class you are looking for, but below is the availability. As of two years ago, I was able to book JAL fine if I can see availability via BA.com. Now JAL has switched to Amadeus, I would have thought that it would be even easier.
Next time when you ask, please specify the origin and destination of these flights. I happen to have taken all of them so I know, but otherwise I would have to first start looking at where the flights are going from / to before I can look up availabilities.
BAL
OK BAL
116MARNYCHKG‡CX
AN16MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 4 FR 16MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J2 C2 D2 IL/EWR HKG 0110 0500‡1 0/359 15:50
W4 R4 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S5 N3 Q1 OL
2 CX 845 F2 A2 J9 C7/JFK HKG 0125 0510‡1 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 NL OL
3 CX 841 F2 A2 JL CL/JFK HKG 1000 1410‡1 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W5 R4 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S3 N1 OL
4 CX 831 F3 A3 J2 C1/JFK HKG 1450 1905‡1 0/77W 16:15
DL IL W2 R1 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
O9
5 CX 889 F2 A2 J2 C2/JFK HKG 2140 0705‡2 1/77W 21:25
D2 I1 WL RL EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 F1 A1 J1 CL/BOS HKG 0130‡1 0505‡2 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W3 RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 NL OL
117MARNYCHKG‡CX
AN17MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 5 SA 17MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J1 CL DL IL/EWR HKG 0110 0500‡1 0/359 15:50
WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L7 VL SL NL OL
2 CX 845 FL AL J4 CL/JFK HKG 0125 0510‡1 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R2 E2 Y7 B6 H5 K3 M1 LL VL SL NL OL
3 CX 841 FL AL J2 CL/JFK HKG 1000 1410‡1 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W2 R1 EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SL NL OL
4 CX 831 FL AL J4 C1/JFK HKG 1450 1905‡1 0/77W 16:15
DL IL WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S3 N1 OL
5 CX 889 F1 A1 J5 C5/JFK HKG 2140 0705‡2 1/77W 21:25
D5 I4 W2 R1 EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 FL AL J2 CL/BOS HKG 0130‡1 0505‡2 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W6 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 N9 Q9 O9
Next time when you ask, please specify the origin and destination of these flights. I happen to have taken all of them so I know, but otherwise I would have to first start looking at where the flights are going from / to before I can look up availabilities.
BAL
OK BAL
116MARNYCHKG‡CX
AN16MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 4 FR 16MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J2 C2 D2 IL/EWR HKG 0110 0500‡1 0/359 15:50
W4 R4 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S5 N3 Q1 OL
2 CX 845 F2 A2 J9 C7/JFK HKG 0125 0510‡1 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S1 NL OL
3 CX 841 F2 A2 JL CL/JFK HKG 1000 1410‡1 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W5 R4 E4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S3 N1 OL
4 CX 831 F3 A3 J2 C1/JFK HKG 1450 1905‡1 0/77W 16:15
DL IL W2 R1 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
O9
5 CX 889 F2 A2 J2 C2/JFK HKG 2140 0705‡2 1/77W 21:25
D2 I1 WL RL EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 F1 A1 J1 CL/BOS HKG 0130‡1 0505‡2 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W3 RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 NL OL
117MARNYCHKG‡CX
AN17MARNYCHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 5 SA 17MAR 0000
1 CX 899 J1 CL DL IL/EWR HKG 0110 0500‡1 0/359 15:50
WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L7 VL SL NL OL
2 CX 845 FL AL J4 CL/JFK HKG 0125 0510‡1 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R2 E2 Y7 B6 H5 K3 M1 LL VL SL NL OL
3 CX 841 FL AL J2 CL/JFK HKG 1000 1410‡1 0/77W 16:10
DL IL W2 R1 EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SL NL OL
4 CX 831 FL AL J4 C1/JFK HKG 1450 1905‡1 0/77W 16:15
DL IL WL RL EL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S3 N1 OL
5 CX 889 F1 A1 J5 C5/JFK HKG 2140 0705‡2 1/77W 21:25
D5 I4 W2 R1 EL YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL OL
6 :CX7558 F2 A2 J4 C4/JFK BOS 1716 1838 0/E75 TR
D4 I4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4
CX 811 FL AL J2 CL/BOS HKG 0130‡1 0505‡2 0/77W 23:49
DL IL W6 R3 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 N9 Q9 O9
Anyways, I really appreciate your response. I can now see all the flights I needed. You rock!
Question, in the instances where it says CL or FL that means that F class and C class are full, right? I.E. a number would represent the number of seats available L means closed. E.G. in this instance:
2 CX 845 FL AL J4 CL/JFK HKG 0125 0510‡1 0/77W 15:45
DL IL W5 R2 E2 Y7 B6 H5 K3 M1 LL VL SL NL OL
4 J class fares are open but 0 for C
Regarding JAL, IDK I have never had a Asia Miles representative say they see award availability.
Last edited by itslit509; Mar 11, 2018 at 11:40 pm
#635

Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: CX Gold, KE Morning Calm, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 103
I have made 2 redemption bookings and all are on waitlist, would someone please help to advise the loading and see if my chance is high?
If not, I may have to make some alternative and I don't know if my MPC status will help for award redemption, I am a MPC GO.
Companion Award
18 May 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (waitlist confirmed)
22 May 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 KA221 DAD - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 CX702 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
Standard Award
13 Apr 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (X) (waitlist)
15 Apr 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (X) (waitlist)
Thanks.
If not, I may have to make some alternative and I don't know if my MPC status will help for award redemption, I am a MPC GO.
Companion Award
18 May 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (waitlist confirmed)
22 May 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 KA221 DAD - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 CX702 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
Standard Award
13 Apr 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (X) (waitlist)
15 Apr 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (X) (waitlist)
Thanks.
Last edited by Rain187; Mar 12, 2018 at 2:07 am
#636



Join Date: May 2006
Location: SIN
Programs: KF, MPC, BAEC // Bonvoy, WoH, Honors
Posts: 1,530
If more seats would open up on this flight (already got 1x J seat and waitlisting another), by when would that typically happen? A few days before departure?
#637
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,125
YVR F: T-45 hours https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29502616-post631.html
#638



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
#639



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
I have made 2 redemption bookings and all are on waitlist, would someone please help to advise the loading and see if my chance is high?
If not, I may have to make some alternative and I don't know if my MPC status will help for award redemption, I am a MPC GO.
Companion Award
18 May 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (waitlist confirmed)
22 May 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 KA221 DAD - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 CX702 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
Standard Award
13 Apr 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (X) (waitlist)
15 Apr 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (X) (waitlist)
Thanks.
If not, I may have to make some alternative and I don't know if my MPC status will help for award redemption, I am a MPC GO.
Companion Award
18 May 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (waitlist confirmed)
22 May 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 KA221 DAD - HKG (waitlist)
22 May 2018 CX702 BKK - HKG (waitlist)
Standard Award
13 Apr 2018 CX617 HKG - BKK (X) (waitlist)
15 Apr 2018 CX662 BKK - HKG (X) (waitlist)
Thanks.
Code:
1CX617/18MAYHKGBKK J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX662/22MAYBKKHKG J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX702/22MAYBKKHKG J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1KA221/22MAYDADHKG J1 C1 DL IL Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX617/13APRHKGBKK J3 CL DL IL Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX662/15APRBKKHKG F5 A5 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL .
#640

Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: SPG Platinum, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 244
I am looking at HKG-SIN in Business class on the 29th May.
Seems like there's no direct flight availability that day, only able to route via BKK.
Given the high frequency of flights that served this route, is this usual? Though i understand it's a public holiday over in Singapore.
Seems like there's no direct flight availability that day, only able to route via BKK.
Given the high frequency of flights that served this route, is this usual? Though i understand it's a public holiday over in Singapore.
#641
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,125
Not surprising. CNY 2018, with BKK>SIN in terms of demand, only HKK-BKK available was HKG-SIN-BKK
#642

Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: CX Gold, KE Morning Calm, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 103
BKK companion awards should have some chance, not others.
Code:
1CX617/18MAYHKGBKK J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX662/22MAYBKKHKG J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX702/22MAYBKKHKG J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1KA221/22MAYDADHKG J1 C1 DL IL Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX617/13APRHKGBKK J3 CL DL IL Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL . 1CX662/15APRBKKHKG F5 A5 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL .
thanks but normally when will they release the seat and does my status in MPC help?
i already got one hkg to bkk confirm weeks ago and still waiting for the bkk to hkg (the outbound and inbound loading seems the same) and still have to book on some flight in between... but it's quite uncertain now .. just hope I can get it and plan my trip further
#643
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,125
thanks but normally when will they release the seat and does my status in MPC help?
i already got one hkg to bkk confirm weeks ago and still waiting for the bkk to hkg (the outbound and inbound loading seems the same) and still have to book on some flight in between... but it's quite uncertain now .. just hope I can get it and plan my trip further
i already got one hkg to bkk confirm weeks ago and still waiting for the bkk to hkg (the outbound and inbound loading seems the same) and still have to book on some flight in between... but it's quite uncertain now .. just hope I can get it and plan my trip further
Gold no. Gold is "front of the queue for waitlist" - what MPO claims is true .
But no seats are fed into the queue before (especially for public holidays like 22/5) the T-4 deadline expires and then let it be a free for all (so you compete with people with BA miles, AA miles, AS miles, CA Pheonixmiles and others)).
Your need to plan your holiday is no concern of CX. They already have your miles. In fact, they'd hope you'd start looking at AM first, get desperate, and then go buy CX tickets for $$$ without checking out competitors or leaving things too late.
To beat their redemption ticket racket you need to be as flexible as YVR uncle in post #631 above (it's a commute for him, he's self employed and has houses on both ends). But CX is racking up the constipation level so high these days that even he's getting beaten by CX.
Last edited by percysmith; Mar 12, 2018 at 7:33 pm
#644




Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 3,086
Gold is of priority within the framework of CX generally releasing seats, but the ability to 'poach' a seat for sale into award inventory is a DM (unpublished) benefit only.
#645
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 130
Hi all,
I'm new to Asia Miles as I've been previously been using AAdvantage miles to fly CX get to China. Now I plan to use Asia Miles.
I've searched around but haven't been able to get a direct answer to my inquires for award wait listing using Asia Miles.
I'm planning a trip to Xiamen from SFO in November for my son and I. I see award availability for 11/13, but ideally I'd like to go on 11/10,11, or 12.
Questions...
Can I book and confirm the 11/13 seats and still wait-list my three preferred days?
Each day there are two to three flights from SFO, can I waitlist multiple days and multiple flights? I was told by Asia Miles customer service that only one waitlist was possible. This didn't sound right to me.
Assuming this is all possible, I would have to rebook by calling AsiaMiles and paying $40 per flight sector, $40 fee x 2 passengers x 2 segments per passenger = $160, is this correct?
Any additional guidance is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help...
I'm new to Asia Miles as I've been previously been using AAdvantage miles to fly CX get to China. Now I plan to use Asia Miles.
I've searched around but haven't been able to get a direct answer to my inquires for award wait listing using Asia Miles.
I'm planning a trip to Xiamen from SFO in November for my son and I. I see award availability for 11/13, but ideally I'd like to go on 11/10,11, or 12.
Questions...
Can I book and confirm the 11/13 seats and still wait-list my three preferred days?
Each day there are two to three flights from SFO, can I waitlist multiple days and multiple flights? I was told by Asia Miles customer service that only one waitlist was possible. This didn't sound right to me.
Assuming this is all possible, I would have to rebook by calling AsiaMiles and paying $40 per flight sector, $40 fee x 2 passengers x 2 segments per passenger = $160, is this correct?
Any additional guidance is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help...

