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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old Nov 28, 2022 | 6:18 pm
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Booked PY with Alaska mileage. Am I able to use Asia Miles to upgrade at check in if seats are available?
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 12:41 pm
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I have PE flights booked (cash) MEL-HKG-NRT and return and want to upgrade with Asia Miles if possible. At least the MEL-HKG segments.

Currently the outbound MEL-HKG is Y4 W0 J9 and only 1 seat available for 2 to select, so looks promising for an Op-Up, we are OWE/OWS, but would rather transfer and spend the miles to secure.

Currently no award seats available, how long pre departure is the best time to call in for an upgrade?

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Old Dec 1, 2022 | 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by kiokujai
Booked PY with Alaska mileage. Am I able to use Asia Miles to upgrade at check in if seats are available?
No, you are booked in T class, but you need a W class or R class ticket to use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business.
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Old Dec 1, 2022 | 7:22 pm
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I have waitlisted an upgrade from Y to PEY using Asia miles. Should I use my status as a CX silver or OW Emerald? which one has a better chance?
By the way, will it be possible that I can upgrade from Y to J if available?
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Old Dec 1, 2022 | 11:21 pm
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Which has a better chance, use asia miles to book for business class, or pay for PE then upgrade using miles to J? This is for RT HKG-LAX
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 3:49 am
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Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 7:11 am
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Hi all, I read the sticky at the top but didn't seem to answer my question. I'm doing LHR->MEL with CX next month. I have a Y ticket but am OW Emerald.

I got the email about reserving seats and did so, however does reserving seats in advance reduce my chances of getting bumped up for an overbooking upgrade? Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by mucaari
Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?
W and Y are fully booked, but not necessarily (though possibly) overbooked.

Originally Posted by topperdoggle
Hi all, I read the sticky at the top but didn't seem to answer my question. I'm doing LHR->MEL with CX next month. I have a Y ticket but am OW Emerald.

I got the email about reserving seats and did so, however does reserving seats in advance reduce my chances of getting bumped up for an overbooking upgrade? Thanks in advance.
I don't believe having a seat assignment would hurt your upgrade chance. I always have a seat assigned and still get upgraded from time to time.
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Old Dec 30, 2022 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by mucaari
Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?
It is only showing that at the moment CX is not selling Y or W to general public. I've been upgrade using miles at W0 or J0. So no, it does not mean Y is overbooked.
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Old Jan 1, 2023 | 2:02 am
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Does anyone have any (anecdotal) information on how CX handles operational upgrades with a child on the same booking as a status member? Am I passed over automatically (would they assume that the child could not be alone in the lower class cabin)?

Thanks!
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 5:30 pm
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Just to confirm: mileage upgrades are priced by sector, correct? So a LAX-HKG-KUL upgrade to J would require 28k for LAX-HKG (long type 2 PE-J) and 17k for HKG-KUL (short Y-J). Or can I get both sectors for one 35k price (ultra-long PE-J)?
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Old Feb 13, 2023 | 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192
Just to confirm: mileage upgrades are priced by sector, correct? So a LAX-HKG-KUL upgrade to J would require 28k for LAX-HKG (long type 2 PE-J) and 17k for HKG-KUL (short Y-J). Or can I get both sectors for one 35k price (ultra-long PE-J)?
It will be charged separately. I had the same issue, and i was told the deduction of 35K works only if both sectors are pey>j.

hope this helps.
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
No, you are booked in T class, but you need a W class or R class ticket to use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business.
I have V and L class, are they upgradable using miles?
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by hdlz
I have V and L class, are they upgradable using miles?
If not an Economy LIGHT ticket, yes. See https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...onditions.html, under "Flight Awards Upgrade Award, Airport Upgrade Awards and Inflight Upgrade Awards"
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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 3:16 pm
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First time flying with CX, so I would be grateful to have my expectations set realistic...
Snatched a good premium eco fare to HKG from Europe for end of April and I am interested in mile-upgrading LHR-HKG (wishful thinking ) with Asia Miles, I was told by the CX hotline, that an upgrade to C would cost 25k oneway (which is fine), but there is no availability at the moment...
Give that I have no experience with CX, is it even realistic that some inventory will open up and if so, is there some pattern (weeks before, lastminute..etc) of I should just check every day..

Thanks
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