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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?
The short answer is no.
Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.
There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.
If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?
Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.
How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.
The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?
Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.
What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?
It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.
Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?
Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades
I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?
As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.
How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?
If you already have issued your original ticket:
If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
The short answer is no.
Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.
There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.
If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?
Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.
How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.
The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
- VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
- CX Diamond Plus
- CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
- CX Gold
- CX management staff on travel duty
- oneworld Emerald
- CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
- oneworld Sapphire
- CX Silver
- oneworld Ruby
- CX Green
- Asia Miles
- Non status
I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?
Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.
What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?
It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.
Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?
Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades
I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?
As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.
How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?
If you already have issued your original ticket:
- Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
- If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
- If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
- In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.
If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
- Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
- Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
- Put the booking on hold.
- Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
- Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
- Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
- In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.
If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
The Ultimate Upgrade Question thread
#1156




Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CRK MNL
Programs: CX Gold, OWS, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,548
#1157


Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Singapore
Programs: Cathay, KrisFlyer, Hyatt, Hilton, Bonvoy
Posts: 1,161
#1158




Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CRK MNL
Programs: CX Gold, OWS, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,548
I don’t know if there’s something wrong with AM app and website, but I can’t book an upgrade award. After I select upgrade from economy to business, it will go to new flight booking for miles.
#1159


Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: JAL
Posts: 42
My family and I (4pax 12+) are booked SYD-BOS later this month, PY outbound and J return.
There appears to be good availability of J on the HKG-BOS sector. Does anyone have experience of bid for upgrade ($ rather than miles - we're JAL FF) in this situation?
There appears to be good availability of J on the HKG-BOS sector. Does anyone have experience of bid for upgrade ($ rather than miles - we're JAL FF) in this situation?
#1160


Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 8,239
For example, we've had some of our staff recently get bidding emails. These are for intra-Asia flights. I saw a few of them, it was head scratching: for example HKG-Changsha, HKG-Taipei and Shanghai-HKG were the three. In each case, they were better off just paying for the J class ticket fare difference than the "recommended bid". I guess they could've lowballed Cathay and maybe had success, I'm not sure. But it was all still a very bad deal, even at the lowest accepted bid. Not that we would've paid for them to fly in J anyway but they were distributed around the office, someone was trying to make a point that CX is badly run. I don't think any of them paid out of their own pockets for the upgrade, even HKG-TPE the lowest bid allowed was over $100 USD for one-way. This is not good value.
I've never used the system but from what I can tell on here, it's a failed experiment.
#1161


Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: JAL
Posts: 42
Ill report back on how we go!
#1162

Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 75
Is it worth bidding for an upgrade from economy to premium economy? I don't have any status on Cathay, and got my YYZ-SIN (via HKG) tickets with some Amex points. YouTube videos suggest the upgrade to Premium Economy for a 16 hour flight is worth it...but some posts here indicate that it's really not all that.
Minimum bid is US$515. I just put in a bid of US$525, but not sure if this is even worth it...thoughts?
Minimum bid is US$515. I just put in a bid of US$525, but not sure if this is even worth it...thoughts?
#1163




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: CX GO, AC Aeroplan 25K, AMEX PLAT, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Spire Amb
Posts: 505
I can't speak for the SYD sector. But from reading on here, they don't seem to play "let's make a deal." You can pay the fare difference, otherwise don't really expect an attractive bid price. If you get an offer to bid at all. I'd bet you won't get one for the BOS sector but please report back either way.
For example, we've had some of our staff recently get bidding emails. These are for intra-Asia flights. I saw a few of them, it was head scratching: for example HKG-Changsha, HKG-Taipei and Shanghai-HKG were the three. In each case, they were better off just paying for the J class ticket fare difference than the "recommended bid". I guess they could've lowballed Cathay and maybe had success, I'm not sure. But it was all still a very bad deal, even at the lowest accepted bid. Not that we would've paid for them to fly in J anyway but they were distributed around the office, someone was trying to make a point that CX is badly run. I don't think any of them paid out of their own pockets for the upgrade, even HKG-TPE the lowest bid allowed was over $100 USD for one-way. This is not good value.
I've never used the system but from what I can tell on here, it's a failed experiment.
For example, we've had some of our staff recently get bidding emails. These are for intra-Asia flights. I saw a few of them, it was head scratching: for example HKG-Changsha, HKG-Taipei and Shanghai-HKG were the three. In each case, they were better off just paying for the J class ticket fare difference than the "recommended bid". I guess they could've lowballed Cathay and maybe had success, I'm not sure. But it was all still a very bad deal, even at the lowest accepted bid. Not that we would've paid for them to fly in J anyway but they were distributed around the office, someone was trying to make a point that CX is badly run. I don't think any of them paid out of their own pockets for the upgrade, even HKG-TPE the lowest bid allowed was over $100 USD for one-way. This is not good value.
I've never used the system but from what I can tell on here, it's a failed experiment.
#1164

Join Date: May 2005
Programs: AA Exec Plat, UA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Plat, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 84
Data point: AA EXP/OW Emerald. CX807, 11/23/2019. Op-up from PE to J. Expert Flyer shows availability after I boarded as:
F2 A2 Z0 J0 C0 D0 I0 U W2 R2 E2 T2Y8 B7 H6 K6 M5 L5 V5 S4 N3 Q2 O0
F2 A2 Z0 J0 C0 D0 I0 U W2 R2 E2 T2Y8 B7 H6 K6 M5 L5 V5 S4 N3 Q2 O0
#1165



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,225
Code:
BAL/ZZSMCX807/W/23NOVORDHKG/V
BA RESPONSE
SM CX 0807/W/23NOVORDHKG/V
SM CX 0807 W 23NOV ORDHKG 77W
A C D E F G H K
W 30 B B> 30 W
31 > 31
32 B B> 32
33 > 33
34 > 34
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE > WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C C
OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P P
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U U
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R
R
Y CHARGEABLE
#1166
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,393
I have two long haul sectors coming up (JNB-HKG-IAD) and was wondering as an OW Emerald booked in E (PEY) do I have a good chance at getting an operational upgrade? The first sector departs in 4.5 hours and the IAD sector departs tomorrow night. EF is showing:
JNB-HKG
J0 W1 Y3
A few hours ago it was J2 W0. When looking at the seat map PEY is 100% occupied (no seats showing as blocked).
HKG-IAD
J8 W1 Y1
JNB-HKG
J0 W1 Y3
A few hours ago it was J2 W0. When looking at the seat map PEY is 100% occupied (no seats showing as blocked).
HKG-IAD
J8 W1 Y1
#1167




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: CX GO, AC Aeroplan 25K, AMEX PLAT, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Spire Amb
Posts: 505
I have two long haul sectors coming up (JNB-HKG-IAD) and was wondering as an OW Emerald booked in E (PEY) do I have a good chance at getting an operational upgrade? The first sector departs in 4.5 hours and the IAD sector departs tomorrow night. EF is showing:
JNB-HKG
J0 W1 Y3
A few hours ago it was J2 W0. When looking at the seat map PEY is 100% occupied (no seats showing as blocked).
HKG-IAD
J8 W1 Y1
JNB-HKG
J0 W1 Y3
A few hours ago it was J2 W0. When looking at the seat map PEY is 100% occupied (no seats showing as blocked).
HKG-IAD
J8 W1 Y1
#1168
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,393
Quick update - no op up on JNB-HKG. PEY was booked 100% despite EF showing W4 several hours before departure and a completely full seat map the entire time (no blocked seats).
HKG-IAD is now showing J5 W0 Y0. Anyone know how far out CX starts processing Op Ups? Or is this only done at the gate?
HKG-IAD is now showing J5 W0 Y0. Anyone know how far out CX starts processing Op Ups? Or is this only done at the gate?
#1169




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: CX GO, AC Aeroplan 25K, AMEX PLAT, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Spire Amb
Posts: 505
Quick update - no op up on JNB-HKG. PEY was booked 100% despite EF showing W4 several hours before departure and a completely full seat map the entire time (no blocked seats).
HKG-IAD is now showing J5 W0 Y0. Anyone know how far out CX starts processing Op Ups? Or is this only done at the gate?
HKG-IAD is now showing J5 W0 Y0. Anyone know how far out CX starts processing Op Ups? Or is this only done at the gate?
#1170
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,393
We will see. Flight is in 2.5 hours.
ETA: looks like no dice for me. Checked with the agents. They said it’s a full flight but no seat change for me.
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