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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old May 22, 2019 | 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by SuloL
You can find out if your itinerary is eligible on a dedicated CX page for that (google Cathay Upgrade Bid or similar).

Yes, eligible for op-up.
Yup... all four segments are eligible. The min-bid is about $1100 USD IAD<->HKG.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Will wait until closer to 7/5 to decide whether or not to bid as loads start to become more evident.
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Old May 22, 2019 | 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by newty25
Yup... all four segments are eligible. The min-bid is about $1100 USD IAD<->HKG.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Will wait until closer to 7/5 to decide whether or not to bid as loads start to become more evident.
Unfortunately the bidding system seems completely useless. From the posts I read in this forum, the recommended prices are usually so high they are laughable and/or just plain broken (aka, same or even higher price than the original ticket in the higher class).
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Old May 22, 2019 | 5:48 pm
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I paid about $3k/ticket for my "E"class fares and the suggested $2k bid per leg would make my ticket about $7k/ticket. A small discount over what I would have paid to just secure the ticket by buying it outright.

And I would assume that if I have a bid that gets rejected, I won't be getting an op-up should one become available.

I think I might just hold tight and stick with my original ticket and see what happens.
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Old May 22, 2019 | 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
Unfortunately the bidding system seems completely useless. From the posts I read in this forum, the recommended prices are usually so high they are laughable and/or just plain broken (aka, same or even higher price than the original ticket in the higher class).
That has been my experience as well.
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Old May 23, 2019 | 4:22 am
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Originally Posted by newty25
.....

And I would assume that if I have a bid that gets rejected, I won't be getting an op-up should one become available.

.....
Not true. On 2 past flights, my low bids were rejected but got op-up during check-in. So it doesn't seem a rejected bid would change your op-up chance.
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Old May 23, 2019 | 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by bluetus04
Not true. On 2 past flights, my low bids were rejected but got op-up during check-in. So it doesn't seem a rejected bid would change your op-up chance.
LOL! That's crazy. Rejecting additional revenue.

Thanks for the info!
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Old May 27, 2019 | 7:55 am
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Hello all.

I am CX Marco Polo Silver Status and BA Gold. Flying DUB - HKG soon on CX direct service. What loyalty scheme am I best off to use as my main Frequent Flyer for this ticket, can I use more then one programme on ticket? I am currently in PE on DUB - HKG leg and economy on home leg. Dub - HKG seems pretty full. Thank you
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 9:14 pm
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Separate bids

Me and girlfriend will fly HKG-MAD in December, but we booked our tickets separatly, so it really looks like we are travelling singlehanded. What if we both bid, but only one of us gets accepted?.
Is it possible to reverse the bid after it has been cleared? because both of us wants to upgrade to Business and sit together of course
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Old Jun 3, 2019 | 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by Alan Nevin
Hello all.

I am CX Marco Polo Silver Status and BA Gold. Flying DUB - HKG soon on CX direct service. What loyalty scheme am I best off to use as my main Frequent Flyer for this ticket, can I use more then one programme on ticket? I am currently in PE on DUB - HKG leg and economy on home leg. Dub - HKG seems pretty full. Thank you
I would use BA Gold, unfortunately it's not possible to associate both your MPC and BA Gold card with your booking. The only time where this is useful is a case where you'll get physical benefits from one and not the other. An example would be priority boarding, that's given to MPC Green members but not BA Bronze (or oneworld ruby equivalent).
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Old Jun 12, 2019 | 6:01 pm
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Have got lucky this week with op-ups, 2/2. Noticed a new feature, CX now sends email notifications "Seat change to your flight CXxxx". Has this been around before and I've just missed it, or is this a new thing?
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 6:15 am
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Did you notice if economy and/or PE were both sold out on your flight?

And were you booked for PE originally or did you get the double op-up?
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 8:45 am
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I am CX Silver. Anyone got the loading for CX597 (KIX to HKG) and CX826 (HKG to YYZ) on 04 July? I am booked in Economy M class for the first flight and PEconomy E for the second flight.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 10:27 am
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Looking them up individually... it looks like this:

CX597 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
L9 V9 S9 N1 Q0
CX826 J7 C9 D4 I0 W9 R5 E0 Y0 B6 H0 K0 M0
L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0

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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 6:04 am
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Hi all,

am new here! Looking to book SIN-HKG return 13JUL - 16 JUL. Is it a good idea to book Core instead of Save, if I'm looking at any slight chance of upgrade?
I got invited to MPC after flying several flights with Cathay, am also flying on my birthday (13 JUL), if it helps.

also, can anyone kindly help me to check the flight load for CX650 and CX710, please (or is it still too early to tell?) Thanks!
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 5:10 pm
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If I win bid, will exit seat cost be refunded?

CX newbie flying HNG >SEA. Im booked in economy but have paid for an exit row seat. Just found that I am eligible to bid on an upgrade to PE. On AA when you waitlist for an upgrade (points+$) and it goes through, whatever you paid for an extra legroom seat gets refunded. Is this the case with CX too?

TIA,
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