Dallas
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Dallas
looks like this will be the next long haul to North America!!!!!! nice connections to Latin America- hope they go through with this
so yeah no Seattle or Miami yet
"Mr Chu said Cathay was evaluating was Dallas/Forth Worth."
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...fw-next-123357
in other news Cathay is New York's fifth largest foreign airline!!!
so yeah no Seattle or Miami yet
"Mr Chu said Cathay was evaluating was Dallas/Forth Worth."
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...fw-next-123357
in other news Cathay is New York's fifth largest foreign airline!!!
#3




Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: ORD, MIA
Programs: AA EXP, JL JGC, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 385
DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
#4
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DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
#5


Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,978
DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service.
#8
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA LT GLD 1MM
Posts: 811
When one route stands out as longer than all others by a good amount, everyone is going to save their SWU's for it. With the new 1-2-1 J configuration (and 3-4-3 econ) each J seat is taking up the space of ~6 Y seats. So if the flight is ultra-long-haul (high fuel costs), and 50% of the J cabin is free upgrades on deeply discounted Y tickets, it will be VERY hard for AA to make money on the flight.
If AA starts DFW-HKG the J cabin is going to be full of pax connecting from lax/jfk/ord just so they can use a SWU. And if their upgrades don't clear they'll ..... and moan (and possibly be stuck in 3-4-3) and possibly decide to switch to UA/DL.
#11
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Nah, -- they only authorize as many SWUs on a flight as they want to. Looking for reasons why AA has problems with very long flights like ORD/DEL? Don't forget negotiating with the pilot's union.
#12




Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: ORD, MIA
Programs: AA EXP, JL JGC, Hyatt Glob
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For an example, AA's LAX-LHR on its new 77W is a very difficult route for an SWU to be confirmed in advance. Much more tightly controlled than, say, ORD-NRT on a summer day.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat.
And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat.
And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W.
#13
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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For an example, AA's LAX-LHR on its new 77W is a very difficult route for an SWU to be confirmed in advance. Much more tightly controlled than, say, ORD-NRT on a summer day.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat.
And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat.
And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W.
and a worse soft product across the board
not to mention an annoyed CX who is not very close to OW anyway!!
#15
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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if anything AA should be concerned if it plans on launching a route to HKG conisdering CX is a OW partner that frankly does not care about OW
also where was the concern when QF launched the route
AA should be more concerned about EK than any OW partner
If OW loses CX they would lose their dominance in the corporate market



I'd book out every seat in the CX premium cabin had it been flown empty.