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Dallas
looks like this will be the next long haul to North America!!!!!! nice connections to Latin America- hope they go through with this
so yeah no Seattle or Miami yet "Mr Chu said Cathay was evaluating was Dallas/Forth Worth." http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...fw-next-123357 in other news Cathay is New York's fifth largest foreign airline!!! |
Agreed, This would be awesome...direct to Dallas then direct to Costa Rica.
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DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service. |
Originally Posted by incognitoMD
(Post 21338254)
DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service. |
Originally Posted by incognitoMD
(Post 21338254)
DFW-HKG would be an amazing route for oneworld. It has been rumored for a while.
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades. But either way, its a win-win outcome for customers of oneworld if either CX or AA starts DFW-HKG service. |
Many Vietnamese Americans live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. I think CX would hit a home run with this route.
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i genuinely believe HK should fly direct to Montreal as per my wish :) I'd book out every seat in the CX premium cabin had it been flown empty.
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Originally Posted by incognitoMD
(Post 21338254)
Personally though, I would rather see it operated by AA, as its footprint in Asia is a bit lacking, and it would be a great route to utilize systemwide upgrades.
When one route stands out as longer than all others by a good amount, everyone is going to save their SWU's for it. With the new 1-2-1 J configuration (and 3-4-3 econ) each J seat is taking up the space of ~6 Y seats. So if the flight is ultra-long-haul (high fuel costs), and 50% of the J cabin is free upgrades on deeply discounted Y tickets, it will be VERY hard for AA to make money on the flight. If AA starts DFW-HKG the J cabin is going to be full of pax connecting from lax/jfk/ord just so they can use a SWU. And if their upgrades don't clear they'll ..... and moan (and possibly be stuck in 3-4-3) and possibly decide to switch to UA/DL. |
I don't think this is a real consideration. SWUs are obviously capacity controlled, and AA can release as many seats as they see fit.
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HKG - DFW would become my primary route to North America. Hope this turns into reality. ^
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Originally Posted by AZbba
(Post 21342053)
I think this is precisely whey AA can't start the route. Also why they can't start DFW/LAX -SYD/AKL. Probably also what helped to kill ORD-DEL.
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For an example, AA's LAX-LHR on its new 77W is a very difficult route for an SWU to be confirmed in advance. Much more tightly controlled than, say, ORD-NRT on a summer day.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat. And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W. |
Originally Posted by incognitoMD
(Post 21348263)
For an example, AA's LAX-LHR on its new 77W is a very difficult route for an SWU to be confirmed in advance. Much more tightly controlled than, say, ORD-NRT on a summer day.
If AA were to have DFW-HKG on a 77W or 772, I am sure upgrades would be tightly controlled, like LAX-LHR. And that is fine with me. In my opinion, AA filling the J/F cabin with last minute SWU upgrades is a much better outcome than letting those seats go out empty. There is obviously not much of exceptional service to be had on AA. I would be happy with just the seat. And if AA were to start DFW-HKG on a 77W, we would then be talking identical J seats on CX's 77W and AA's 77W. and a worse soft product across the board not to mention an annoyed CX who is not very close to OW anyway!! |
it will be good for CX to add HKG-DFW, but AA is too strong in DFW that brings everyone's concern
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Originally Posted by lisa2926
(Post 21359795)
it will be good for CX to add HKG-DFW, but AA is too strong in DFW that brings everyone's concern
if anything AA should be concerned if it plans on launching a route to HKG conisdering CX is a OW partner that frankly does not care about OW also where was the concern when QF launched the route AA should be more concerned about EK than any OW partner If OW loses CX they would lose their dominance in the corporate market |
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